Stick to your guns mate.
You’re hardly using Colm Keys to back up your point, pal? Surely not?! Just watching it now. Paul Murphy started wing back on Bonner Maher. I’ll see how it transpires from here on.
Corbett started centre forward on Hogan
The game lacked a bit of the crunch of the 09/10 era but was still a spellbinding encounter right from the off, No one unit from either side ever seemed to dominate their area so it became a bit of a shootout. Murphy, TJ and the two Richie’s were best for KK and their keeper pulled off a fantastic save.
Stapleton was immense in Tipps late rally and all their forwards played well bar Ryan. Just couldn’t get it in the net.
I thought Tipp were the better side but just like 09 they were couging up serious chances but at least they held their nerve for a well deserved draw this time.
Tipps support was excellent yesterday, their Tipp Tipp chants had a telling effect on the players at crucial times in the 2nd half when they looked fucked.
The Kilkenny crowd had nothing to counter with and wouldn’t have been heard anyway if they did.
Cody made a shite of it bringing Shefflin on when he did, almost cost them the match. Either bring him on with enough time to play his way into the game or don’t bring him on at all. Did he even get a touch yesterday? His only real impact was to inspire Tipp and give them a new lease of life just when they needed it most. Shabby treatment from Cody of KKs greatest hurler.
Kelly was only average yesterday but going on the standard of refereeing in general this Summer that should probably be considered a good thing. If he had called the second penalty correct, ie a 21 yard free, Tipp would probably have won the game.
With the reduced ticket prices, there must be a fair chance the replay will sell out
So Murphy picked up Maher at the start - right half back and left half forward. There was a switch between Corbett and Maher after 10 minutes and the latter looped around from centre forward to claim the long ball for the goal chance where he overcooked the pass for Callanan shortly thereafter.
Maher did indeed catch the puck out above Brian Hogan’s head for the goal - apologies @Julio Geordio, friends and relations. Murphy was picking up Corbett at that stage with 20 minutes gone. So that was a spell at centre forward for Maher alright. Tyrrell seemed to be picking him up in the next attack when Murphy came back to foul him for the penalty but Maher was back at left half forward with Murphy on him for the next attack when Corbett pointed.
Kilkenny seemed to definitively decide that Murphy would follow him everywhere at that point no matter what way the Tipp forwards were rotating. Murphy caught a puck out in front of Maher on the other side of the pitch in the right half forward position to launch the attack for the first Kilkenny goal after 25 minutes, for example. His clearance was caught by Reid, who set up Power.
They had some battle in the second half actually - mainly along the right hand side of the Kilkenny defence. Murphy was out in front to set up points for Walter Walsh and Richie Power with great passes down the right flank. The way he took down the ball to set up the Walsh point was superb. Brilliant hand pass by Maher for Gearóid Ryan’s goal chance and then Maher caught the puck out above Murphy for his goal chance with 15 minutes left that the keeper deflected over. Maher also hooked and dispossessed Murphy late on for Stapleton’s point and was involved in winning possession in the corner before the ball was crossed for O’Dwyer to equalise.
All in all, Paul Murphy marked Maher for the entire game with the exception of the spell between 10th and 23rd minutes. Ergo, I was correct in stating Paul Murphy marked him for practically the entire game. However, the period where Murphy wasn’t directly on him coincided with the goal he scored and the penalty he earned.
Thank you, kindly.
Happy to call that a draw, @Julio Geordio?
[QUOTE=“Bartosz Bereszynskiego, post: 1013634, member: 9”]So Murphy picked up Maher at the start - right half back and left half forward. There was a switch between Corbett and Maher after 10 minutes and the latter looped around from centre forward to claim the long ball for the goal chance where he overcooked the pass for Callanan shortly thereafter.
Maher did indeed catch the puck out above Brian Hogan’s head for the goal - apologies @Julio Geordio, friends and relations. Murphy was picking up Corbett at that stage with 20 minutes gone. So that was a spell at centre forward for Maher alright. Tyrrell seemed to be picking him up in the next attack when Murphy came back to foul him for the penalty but Maher was back at left half forward with Murphy on him for the next attack when Corbett pointed.
Kilkenny seemed to definitively decide that Murphy would follow him everywhere at that point no matter what way the Tipp forwards were rotating. Murphy caught a puck out in front of Maher on the other side of the pitch in the right half forward position to launch the attack for the first Kilkenny goal after 25 minutes, for example. His clearance was caught by Reid, who set up Power.
They had some battle in the second half actually - mainly along the right hand side of the Kilkenny defence. Murphy was out in front to set up points for Walter Walsh and Richie Power with great passes down the right flank. The way he took down the ball to set up the Walsh point was superb. Brilliant hand pass by Maher for Gearóid Ryan’s goal chance and then Maher caught the puck out above Murphy for his goal chance with 15 minutes left that the keeper deflected over. Maher also hooked and dispossessed Murphy late on for Stapleton’s point and was involved in winning possession in the corner before the ball was crossed for O’Dwyer to equalise.
All in all, Paul Murphy marked Maher for the entire game with the exception of the spell between 10th and 23rd minutes. Ergo, I was correct in stating Paul Murphy marked him for practically the entire game. However, the period where Murphy wasn’t directly on him coincided with the goal he scored and the penalty he earned.
Thank you, kindly.
Happy to call that a draw, @Julio Geordio?[/QUOTE]
Why would I call it a draw when I was 100% correct and you were 100% wrong?
Tyrrell was on him for the penalty. I was 100% right when I said Murphy was on him for practically the entire game. 
2014 truly has been an Annus Horribilis for Bandage, the poor lad
@chewy louie - will you just give him his name back! It’s just cruel at this stage- At least lash up a poll and see if that can sway you.
Lay off, mate. I need a strategic change of subject here.
What changes need to be made for the replay? Presume Kilkenny thought they could take advantage of a size mismatch by playing Walter Walsh on Barrett but that clearly didn’t work. Someone else to come in there?
I think Mickey Cahill needs to start for Tipperary and would be tempted to play him on Hogan.
The plethora of missed Tipperary goal chances have been mentioned but Colin Fennelly messed up one gilt edge goal chance early on when he tried to tap it to Reid instead of finishing himself. He also got in a great position early in the second half cutting in from the right and played a pass behind his brother. He needs to step it up and be more efficient the next day.
I don’t think the Kilkenny defence has the collective legs to go man to man with the Tipperary forwards like they did in 2011, for example. What to do to provide themselves with enough cover?
[QUOTE=“Bartosz Bereszynskiego, post: 1013670, member: 9”]Lay off, mate. I need a strategic change of subject here.
What changes need to be made for the replay? Presume Kilkenny thought they could take advantage of a size mismatch by playing Walter Walsh on Barrett but that clearly didn’t work. Someone else to come in there?
I think Mickey Cahill needs to start for Tipperary and would be tempted to play him on Hogan.
The plethora of missed Tipperary goal chances have been mentioned but Colin Fennelly messed up one gilt edge goal chance early on when he tried to tap it to Reid instead of finishing himself. He also got in a great position early in the second half cutting in from the right and played a pass behind his brother. He needs to step it up and be more efficient the next day.
I don’t think the Kilkenny defence has the collective legs to go man to man with the Tipperary forwards like they did in 2011, for example. What to do to provide themselves with enough cover?[/QUOTE]
That is a good post and a welcome improvement.
[QUOTE=“Bartosz Bereszynskiego, post: 1013670, member: 9”]Lay off, mate. I need a strategic change of subject here.
What changes need to be made for the replay? Presume Kilkenny thought they could take advantage of a size mismatch by playing Walter Walsh on Barrett but that clearly didn’t work. Someone else to come in there?
I think Mickey Cahill needs to start for Tipperary and would be tempted to play him on Hogan.
The plethora of missed Tipperary goal chances have been mentioned but Colin Fennelly messed up one gilt edge goal chance early on when he tried to tap it to Reid instead of finishing himself. He also got in a great position early in the second half cutting in from the right and played a pass behind his brother. He needs to step it up and be more efficient the next day.
I don’t think the Kilkenny defence has the collective legs to go man to man with the Tipperary forwards like they did in 2011, for example. What to do to provide themselves with enough cover?[/QUOTE]
Did i not tell you i would give my opinion once i have watched the match in full again. :rolleyes:
Having considered the matter for 24 hours I am inclined to @Lazarus view that there was something lacking in yesterday’s game. It definitely lacked the sturm und drang of the 09 and 10 encounters. While the score taking was a delight it is hard to evade the conclusion that we were probably witnessing two of the worst defences to appear in a final in modern times and at least since 2008. Only one defender showed up on each team and the half back lines of each team were marked absent for pretty well the entire game, as far as defending was concerned.
It was notable that in all the guff about hooks and blocks that went on on the Sunday Game the hooks and blocks were by forwards. The backs were never getting close enough to their men to get in a block or a tackle. The wide open spaces that Bonnar Maher and Richie Power were running into were every bit as bad as the space that Dublin were lambasted for giving up to Donegal the previous week. There wasn’t a decent flake or body check the whole day long.
[QUOTE=“Fagan ODowd, post: 1013697, member: 706”]Having considered the matter for 24 hours I am inclined to @Lazarus view that there was something lacking in yesterday’s game. It definitely lacked the sturm und drang of the 09 and 10 encounters. While the score taking was a delight it is hard to evade the conclusion that we were probably witnessing two of the worst defences to appear in a final in modern times and at least since 2008. Only one defender showed up on each team and the half back lines of each team were marked absent for pretty well the entire game, as far as defending was concerned.
It was notable that in all the guff about hooks and blocks that went on on the Sunday Game the hooks and blocks were by forwards. The backs were never getting close enough to their men to get in a block or a tackle. The wide open spaces that Bonnar Maher and Richie Power were running into were every bit as bad as the space that Dublin were lambasted for giving up to Donegal the previous week. There wasn’t a decent flake or body check the whole day long.[/QUOTE]
The way the game is refereed has changed so KK don’t get away with the spare arm tackle anymore.
Must watch it on TV tonight - Tipp seemed to attack left side of the KK defence for most of the second half
I expressed a similar view at half time and full time yesterday, @Fagan ODowd[/USER], and I haven’t changed my mind having watched it again earlier. Hard to definitively conclude given I was at the 2009-11 games but yesterday didn’t seem to be at that level for me. Players like Tyrrell, B Hogan, M Fennelly, Larkin are nowhere near the level they were at then. Holden is hardly an upgrade on Tommy Walsh. The defending yesterday was really poor. Kilkenny couldn’t cope with pace and movement from Tipperary but were getting plenty of joy from long deliveries themselves. Tipp’s play was more structured and nuanced though and it was that spell where Richie Hogan dominated at centre forward that gave Kilkenny the cushion they needed at the end. I think there’s been a touch of what [USER=48]@thedancingbaby has mentioned before - the strange need to tag every second hurling game as an absolute classic.
its the modern day phenomenon …every event has to be ‘the best ever’ …so then everyone can take a picture and put it up on facebook to show they were there…
And maybe I’m the opposite…arguing it wasn’t that great because I wasn’t there to take Facebook pictures.
Your current situation reminds me of this
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