All Ireland Hurling Final 2014- Kilkenny vTipperary

We’re a terribly gullible nation. This fella gets a salary and charges fees for this Russel Grant-esque bolloxogy.
https://twitter.com/Enda_McNulty

[QUOTE=“kerry1891, post: 1013906, member: 1379”]I haven’t read back through the thread to know if this has been mentioned

Anyway Jones Road outside the Hogan stand exit just in front of the Croke Park hotel was absolute mayhem as people exited after the match. Just a complete log jam.

Never seen it as bad and bar a lad on a megaphone shouting to people to move slowly not a Garda or croke park official in sight

I have exited croke park on many a full house but never came across a situation like it before. I might be slightly alarmist but it was not too far from being a messy crush.[/QUOTE]
Happened after the draw last year too, I was caught up in it. No full houses these days other than All Ireland finals (and possibly Dublin semi finals in the football). In most finals, a lot of the crowd will stay to watch the presentation, a lot will leave at the final whistle and if the result isn’t in doubt, a lot will have left before then. A draw, and everyone leaves together. It’s a pain in the arse, but I’d imagine there isn’t a lot they can do about it other than reduce the capacity.

[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1013953, member: 273”]It’s a terrible insecurity hurling people have. Donal Og was at it again at the end of his radio commentary. It is easy to get caught up in it I suppose, but a 2nd watch is always needed. I said during the first half that the standard was poorish and to be honest I thought both tactically and hurling wise KK were pretty shit and lucky enough to be only 2 down. The 2nd half the standard definitely improved. However it was still a very enjoyable game.

I think hurling people were praying for something after the football being so good recently.

Tony Considine is a tool in general, but at least he is honest enough to say it’s been a shit year for hurling.[/QUOTE]
What age are you? Do you not have better things to be doing than wasting your words on this. To be an effective contrarian you have to have some scrap of merit in your point, something to tease the greater consensus with at least something, anything that challenges…

Not just type all those words you sad dumb boring tragic cunt.

I’m assuming the Enda McNulty account is a parody? 8,000 followers indicates different. Could be fakes I guess.
A truly amazing read, like being inside some of the players heads during the game.
A genius.

[QUOTE=“ttown boy, post: 1013989, member: 259”]What age are you? Do you not have better things to be doing than wasting your words on this. To be an effective contrarian you have to have some scrap of merit in your point, something to tease the greater consensus with at least something, anything that challenges…

Not just type all those words you sad dumb boring tragic cunt.[/QUOTE]
Fucking hell, how rattled is this lad:D

Great game but I couldn’t into it as much as a few years ago. Hard to hate this Tipp team. Their management team seem sound enough and they have no hateful players in the league of the vintage crop on the Cork team of the last decade.
I’m still not convinced by Callinan. He is no doubt a beautiful hurler but I still think he’s a bit afraid of his shadow. With his size and skill and the form he has been in, he should really be tearing it up, but was happy to pick up a few loose scores. In contrast, Lar, was looking for ball all day and taking on his man. Fair fucks to him after all the grief he got 2 years ago. O’Shea really seems to know how to get the best out of him.
Bubbles is magnificent. Noel McGrath is also a class act. Never understand why Tipp fans seem to have it in for him.
Bonner Maher is hugely effective but his style annoys me. He just sticks his head down, takes about 11 steps before laying it off. If Hogan charged at the end. Bonner should have conceded about 6 frees yesterday.
I hadn’t noticed before yesterday, but as mentioned here recently, Tipp really do seem to have a disproportionate amount of lovely girls.
Michael Fennelly is not a forward. Just play him midfield.
I’d imagine Kilkenny will start P Walsh at 12 and play Larkin at 15. I’d start John Power the next day. Good in the air and accurate.
Jackie really struggled yesterday all through. Lads are walking through him. Hogan poor too. I thought Cillian Buckley was excellent bar one or two loose clearances. Cody must have no faith at all in his defensive subs. Throwing on Kennedy to follow Bubbles around for the last 10 minutes would have been a good call I would have thought. Holden is fine. It is cringe-inducing to see a lad barely able to hit the ball of his left though. JJ has got away with it for years though.
James Barry could cost Tipp the all-ireland.
Darren Gleeson is some size and is a lovely striker of the ball. Surely he should be taking the penalties.
Murphy is a class keeper.
Callinan was dead right to go for the first penalty. If he had scored it, Kilkenny were gone.
Donal Og is an insufferable cunt.

[QUOTE=“corner back, post: 1013999, member: 1572”]Great game but I couldn’t into it as much as a few years ago. Hard to hate this Tipp team. Their management team seem sound enough and they have no hateful players in the league of the vintage crop on the Cork team of the last decade.
I’m still not convinced by Callinan. He is no doubt a beautiful hurler but I still think he’s a bit afraid of his shadow. With his size and skill and the form he has been in, he should really be tearing it up, but was happy to pick up a few loose scores. In contrast, Lar, was looking for ball all day and taking on his man. Fair fucks to him after all the grief he got 2 years ago. O’Shea really seems to know how to get the best out of him.
Bubbles is magnificent. Noel McGrath is also a class act. Never understand why Tipp fans seem to have it in for him.
Bonner Maher is hugely effective but his style annoys me. He just sticks his head down, takes about 11 steps before laying it off. If Hogan charged at the end. Bonner should have conceded about 6 frees yesterday.
I hadn’t noticed before yesterday, but as mentioned here recently, Tipp really do seem to have a disproportionate amount of lovely girls.
Michael Fennelly is not a forward. Just play him midfield.
I’d imagine Kilkenny will start P Walsh at 12 and play Larkin at 15. I’d start John Power the next day. Good in the air and accurate.
Jackie really struggled yesterday all through. Lads are walking through him. Hogan poor too. I thought Cillian Buckley was excellent bar one or two loose clearances. Cody must have no faith at all in his defensive subs. Throwing on Kennedy to follow Bubbles around for the last 10 minutes would have been a good call I would have thought. Holden is fine. It is cringe-inducing to see a lad barely able to hit the ball of his left though. JJ has got away with it for years though.
James Barry could cost Tipp the all-ireland.
Darren Gleeson is some size and is a lovely striker of the ball. Surely he should be taking the penalties.
Murphy is a class keeper.
Callinan was dead right to go for the first penalty. If he had scored it, Kilkenny were gone.
Donal Og is an insufferable cunt.[/QUOTE]
On Noel McGrath, can see why Tipp fans would have been frustrated with him. He pretty much epitomised their decline over the last few years. I was watching him in the game at Nowlan Park last year, and at times it looked like he was afraid to put his hand up to catch a ball. He’s back to something approaching his best now though, and that is a great sight. He was unbelievably good in 2010, and has a lovely style about him.

On Tipp girls. A lot of them are hot, even more of them are mental.

[QUOTE=“cluaindiuic, post: 1013945, member: 258”]I don’t have much to say about the match than has already been said. It was excellent stuff from start to finish. Tipp put together an incredible performance particular around the fluidity and accuracy of their forward play. Kilkenny [read Colin Fennelly x2 and Richie Power x1] overplayed the ball a bit in attack and should have taken the chances to make them harder to catch when they had the lead.

Curious game when you concede 1-28 and feel the defending wasn’t that bad. Tipp scored a huge amount of points from tough angles, under pressure which is a real credit to their preparation. In truth there could have been 4 more goals given all the goal chances squandered on both sides.
Bonner Maher is a top notch player. The two Richies were excellent for us. Eoin Larkin started like a train. He was a bit quieter in the second half but put in some shift defensively.

Barry was exactly how I described him. At his inconsistent and attention seeking best.
Larkin couldn’t get a free even after getting a Rock Bottom early on. The final free was a joke altogether. No free committed by either player.
I’m sure I could find plenty of stuff that he missed committed by KK.

Brian Hogan wasn’t expected to start as he hadn’t trained much in the lead up. I heard from multiple good sources that he is dealing with an injury.
I also heard Herity was ill last week and that led to Murphy starting. I’m not sure how valid that one is.

More of the same next time. We’ve been in bonus territory with this team since 2012. So win or lose we’ve been given plenty a great days.
One more for the road. :clap:[/QUOTE]
Last free was correctly called for head down barging

Right, just finished watching this again.

On Tipperary.

  • Gleeson will come on a tonne from Sunday, he was obviously very nervous & gave up on his short puckouts very early which really suited KK as Tipp went long.
  • Barrett had an immense game, his rise through the ranks at underage was good but his Senior debut season has been awesome.
  • Barry again seemed to suffer from the rookie nerves. KK putting TJ & Power in FF was a good tactic which paid off. He will need to sharpen up on his positional awareness, i would put B Maher at FB for the replay.
  • Stapleton got better reviews than Barrett in most papers today which was mad IMO. Was lucky not to see red for the foul on Power, but on a whole did well enough.
  • P Maher cleared a fair share of ball that broke his way, didn’t really stamp his normal authority on the game but was steady throughout.
  • B Maher had very quiet game, smothered up M Fennelly in fairness but there is a lot more in him which is a positive.
  • Bergin had a shaky start but grew into the game in fairness, delivered a good share of decent ball into the forwards. Positional awareness needs work.
  • McGrath had a storming first half & really curtailed R Hogan, seemed to slow down in the second half after taking a fair blow to his ankle. His form has improved dramatically since last year.
  • Woodlock worked his bollixs off as per usual & probably shaded his battle with Fogarty.
  • Geroid Ryan worked had to break ball but hitting the ball standing & being blocked in the build up for KK’s 2nd goal was a blunder. His goal chance will haunt him. May struggle to retain his spot next day.
  • Bonner was his usual dogged self, his heart & drive to turn over ball his simply awesome. Took his goal well, won a penalty & nearly had a second goal. It is some measure of Murphy to say he hurled Bonner out of it for periods of the second half.
  • Corbett was back to his best thankfully. His pace was a serious thorn in KK’s side & his effort off the post was a sensational effort.
  • Bubbles was like a sniper, his points yesterday for a young lad in his 1st AI were out of this world. Pity that he was largely starved of possession for much of the second half.
  • Callinan took his scores really well but he needs better supply to see a goal scoring return. High ball into him against JJ is a waste of time. I would feel that game will really stand to him.
  • Noel McGrath again took his scores really well & his general work rate improved yesterday. A real pity he didn’t get those chances closer to goal as i feel he would find the back of the net.

The main issues i had with Tipp yesterday was the naivety in their attempted tackling of KK players in possession. So many times 2/3 Tipp players were drawn to the KK player in possession leaving a simple offload to unmarked KK team mate for easy scores. In general, KK seemed to have to work a lot less for their scores. Tipp defenders will have to trust themselves to mark their own opponent to nullify this problem. Also, bar Lar & Bonner our forwards need to be more direct and actually turn the KK defense. All in all we got out of jail, the bottle shown to pull it back with 5 minutes left should really galvanize the panel mentally.

As for KK.
What a bunch of lads, they are so street smart it is unbelievable. Whenever the smell of a 1 on 1 is on they will go for goal. Whenever Tipp got a score they responded immediately, they were cute under the high ball winning so many breaks. Their forwards caused Tipp’s backs untold trouble with their constant movement. I would feel they will be sick they let this one slip though, Tipp may bemoan the goal chances spurned but KK had their fair share too. Pace or the lack of seems to be talked about but they held their own yesterday. The fact Tipp finished so much stronger at the death will be cause for worry as options on the bench seem a lot slacker than in previous years.

Verdict for the replay, Tipp to shade a tighter affair.

[QUOTE=“kerry1891, post: 1013969, member: 1379”]I cannot think of a better final to be honest

I thought it was an unreal physical contest and superb skill level especially the point taking.

Name a few better finals Kev[/QUOTE]
Cork - Galway 1990
Tipp - KK 2009, 2010
Clare - Tipp 1997
Cork- Clare 2013 drawn game.

The amount of mistakes first half was unbelievable.

It wasn’t near the quality of recent Tipp-KK games alone.

[QUOTE=“ttown boy, post: 1013991, member: 259”]I’m assuming the Enda McNulty account is a parody? 8,000 followers indicates different. Could be fakes I guess.
A truly amazing read, like being inside some of the players heads during the game.
A genius.[/QUOTE]
Having you been snorting coke since Sunday?

Bubbles reminds me of former Cork legend Tony O’Sullivan with the stylish way he fires over points with a minimum of effort and off a minimum of possession.

As an aside, Richie Powers first goal on Sunday was probably the best finish I have ever seen in a hurling match.

Better than Conor McGrath’s finish in last years final? Get up the yard

was a lovely finish alright…still prefer Richie Hogan’s against tipp a few years ago when he just controlled it on the hurl and let fly to the roof of the net…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyvKbdOTUxI

Stretching it

Pa Cronin’s finish for his goal in the drawn game was class.

Jimmy Barry-Murphy’s aerial pull against Galway in the 1983 semi-final is the best of all-time.

Cork have had some brilliantly finished goals over the years in fairness. Fenton’s pull against Limerick, Mark Foley against Galway in 1990, John Fitzgibbon’s pull in the 1991 draw against Tipp, Kevin Hennessy from an acute angle on the turn in the replay, Tom Kenny against Wexford in 2004 spring to mind.

[QUOTE=“Sidney, post: 1014119, member: 183”]Pa Cronin’s finish for his goal in the drawn game was class.

Jimmy Barry-Murphy’s aerial pull against Galway in the 1983 semi-final is the best of all-time.

Cork have had some brilliantly finished goals over the years in fairness. Fenton’s pull against Limerick, Mark Foley against Galway in 1990, John Fitzgibbon’s pull in the 1991 draw against Tipp, Kevin Hennessy from an acute angle on the turn in the replay, Tom Kenny against Wexford in 2004 spring to mind.[/QUOTE]
Another ridiculous statement about Sunday.

[QUOTE=“Sidney, post: 1014119, member: 183”]Pa Cronin’s finish for his goal in the drawn game was class.

Jimmy Barry-Murphy’s aerial pull against Galway in the 1983 semi-final is the best of all-time.

Cork have had some brilliantly finished goals over the years in fairness. Fenton’s pull against Limerick, Mark Foley against Galway in 1990, John Fitzgibbon’s pull in the 1991 draw against Tipp, Kevin Hennessy from an acute angle on the turn in the replay, Tom Kenny against Wexford in 2004 spring to mind.[/QUOTE]

Mark Foleys goal in 1990 was class, turned on a sixpence. Although he was aided by Galway not playing a goalkeeper in that game.

On second viewing Kelly really rode Kilkenny, I didn’t even notice the two blatant fouls on Larkin in the first 20 mins that went unpunished on Sunday.