Boxing II

What a complete and utter hypocrite.

You were citing Golovkin as a warrior when the guy was a one weight flat track bully who did everything in his power to avoid a fight with Andre Ward. You were actually calling Mayweather out, a guy touching 40 who started out at 126 lbs for fighting Golovkin at 154 lbs. Yet on the other hand you thought it reasonable that a guy who fought pretty much his whole career at 170lbs and cleaned out his weight division would not step up and fight Andre Ward at 160 lbs.

I asked you a while back who Mayweather ducked throughout his career and you didn’t reply. I think @Tank was right in that there’s more than a hit of racism regarding your revisionism on Mayweather.

Protect yourself at all times.

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There’s a lot of racism in boxing coverage in general, I wasnt talking about you. It’s been proven that white people identify more with the pain of white people and white fighters than black people and black fighters that leads to a scenario where whiter fighters get easier praise for the wars they go through than black fighters. Think even about Mayweather v Maidana - MW gets his nose broken early on through an illegal headbutt but battles through it all to a scrappy win, afterwards Maidana gets praised as being a courageous warrior.

It’s very sad Hagler died. When I first got into boxing he was the first black boxer that I started identifying with 100% and feeling his punches. I watched what he was going through and realised that I had dismissed the pain he endured and probably the pain of a lot of other black fighters also.

He’s dead right. It’s a brutal and dangerous sport. I dislike his hypocrisy, but if he was one of your own you’d be advising him to do exactly this. He fought and negotiated his way to the top of the pile. Of course he can and should look out for his health. It’s a vicious business.

No-one is arguing he is anything other than a cunt.

Yeah that’s fair enough too. That’s entirely his prerogative. But it’s also what sets him apart from the true greats who sought out challenge.

Once again. Who did he duck?

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Then

Colour shading your own perception a bit Tank?

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Initially yes. The heroism of Marvin Hagler helped me face up to the reality that I hadn’t been identifying with black fighters’ pain as much as white fighters’ pain. Sadly not everyone has had the same Road to Damascus conversion that I have and it remains a very common affliction. They should watch more Hagler fights.

And they say boxing is a brute’s game. Fair play.

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I’d say in my lifetime which spans Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Hagler, Hearns, Leonard amongst others, Mayweather was the best boxer of the lot. Not the most entertaining, the most brave, or the best warrior but the best boxer, the one who performed the basic rule of the game - hit and don’t get hit back - to its utmost

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He’s different level. People put shit on him saying he wasn’t a warrior. He was never forced into being one, he is/was that good. who’d choose to slug it out when you’ve the ability to win without resorting to slugging? All and sundry would have loved to drag him into a dogfight but simply couldn’t manage to.

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Doesn’t seem I’m going to get an answer from @glasagusban on this?

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That’s a good assessment.

I think there is nothing noble about Mayweather,unlike hearns.

Nope you aren’t. You’ll recall we’ve had this discussion before and I have no inclination not get into one of your endless meaningless respective “debates”. Go tweet Kev if you need an outlet.

That’s pretty much what I was trying to say. Fagan said it better. The board seems to be largely ad idem on the point.