He was of course, an exceptional boxer, obviously.
Who did Mayweather duck?
Iâm not going to get into another one of your endless repetitive arguments, so Iâll leave it there. Good luck and thanks.
Youâre not going to get into an argument you canât win.
You accuse Mayweather of ducking opponents but you canât make a credible claim to back this up.
So weâre not going to hear who Mayweather ducked?
Grand, I think we can take that as an acknowledgement that you are talking through bias here.
One thing that never sat well with me on Pacquiao was the amount of catchweight fights he fought, whatever about fights the fact that he won world title belts at catchweights does not sit well.
Pacquiao won a super welter world title at 150lbs v Margarito, itâs always been a 154lbs weight division. He fought Cotto for a world title at 145lbs, Cotto was barely struggling to make welterweight around then nevermind 145lbs. He brought De La Hoya down to 147 to fight him, DLH had not fought at welterweight for 7 years prior to that.
You donât even need to reply to him, heâll go ahead and argue with the wall anyway 
Floyd fought Canelo at catchweight.
Pac fought Margarito and Cotto at a catchweight. DLH was at the 147 welterweight limit. DLH agreed to this as he still delusionally thought he could be a ww contender.
Letâs remember Pac is a 5â5 midget whoâs career prime was arguably 126 - 130lbs when he beat Morales, Barerra, Marquez, basically muderers row. I think a 5â5 Pac was entitled to ask Margarito for a 150 catchweight given Marg was a career 147 welterweight.
Youâre not providing context here. So Pac has had 2 catchweight fights vs Floydâs 1. Why does only Pacs not sit well with you? Seems a contradiction there.
Margarito and Cotto were and it was an absolute joke that they were at the weights they were.
Pac was a midget but still, weights are weights and catchweights were the the demands of Pacquiao on many occasions.
Pac had two world title fights at catchweights. Mayweather had zero. The Cotto one in particular was very poor form, Pacquaio had many fights at 147 so why did he want Cotto at 145? Cotto had been struggling to make 147 for some time so clearly it was as he viewed him a big threat.
I think you have to put a big * on Pacquiaoâs super welter title as it was at 150lbs.
Mayweather also fought Marquez at a catchweight beneficial to Marquez.
Floyd v Canelo was a title fight. Not that that matters in the era of superfights where fighters give up belts willingly if the moneys right.
Floyd had 1 catchweight fight, Pac had 2. Seems youâve double standards.
Well I donât agree with them either way but I think Pacquiaoâs cathcheweights were far more restricting on his opponents, particularly Cotto.
Mayweather also indulged Marquez with a catchweight contest too.
The cotto/margarito catchweights are no more egregious than floyds canelo catchweight. In fact I would say less so given the dimensions and previous campaigning classes involved.
They are.
The Cotto one in particular. Pacquaio fought many fights at 147 so why did he feel the need to drag Cotto, a fighter already struggling to make weight at 147 down to 145?
Thatâs incorrect. Pac had one previous fight at 147, v DLH his first ever fight at that weight. His fight before Cotto was at 140 v Hatton. One fight removed from there was Diaz at 135. Cotto was a career 140 and 147 fighter before his later day 154 era. At the time of asking him to fight at 145, this was 2lbs lower than his last few fights but you couldnât say this was number egregious given Cotto was an established ww who had titkes at lw. To that point Cotto was a career ww and lw. He had not made the jump yet. A perfectly reasonable request from Pac given Cottoâs previous and it was Pacs first legitimate fight at 147. The dlh fight was a freakshow.
Floyd on the otherhand had fought twice at 154lbs, in 2007 and 2012 at the full limit and then when Canelo came around in 2013, he insisted on the catchweight. Clearly because he feared Canelo. Canelo hadnât fought below 154 in his previous TEN fights and as you can read from the man himself, really struggled to get to the catchweight.
Floyds catchweight schenigans were similar if not worse than Pacs given relative size and rise through the weight classes.
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Floyd fucked Marquez on the weight, he was supposed to weigh in at 142, paid a fine and came in at 47. It was Marquez first fight above 135. Floyd clearly respected what he brought to the table.
Floyd always controls the distance and beats Marquez, but was taking no chances. This is where a lot of the cherry pick stuff started in earnest. Not who he was fighting but when and how. Marquez got 3 mill, Floyd 10 mill, everybody was happy.
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Think it was 144 but yeah thatâs right, Floyd just blew it off. Pacquiaoâs rise through the weight classes was a phenom and will never be seen again.
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144 rather, but 3lb is a bit
Manny was supposed to be a lunatic in the casino. Apparently lost one of the Marquez purses the same night at a high roller table. Think even Freddie Roach alluded to it once. Wondet itâs why he is still going.
Id love to see him and Ryan Garcia at maybe 140. Those two fuckers Spence and Crawford need to fight each other.
Whyte v Povetkin tomorrow night
Iâd be pretty sure this wonât get to the half way mark. Both have terrific power but I think unless Povetkin catches Whyte with the perfect punch like he did last time Whyte will put him away.
He is odds on 1/3 so not a difficult prediction.
Whyte must win
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