Boxing II

Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy · October 11, 2021, 10:09am

Good point, well argued.

glasagusban · October 11, 2021, 10:12am

“he’s throwing shade and gaslighting me boohoohoo ”

Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy · October 11, 2021, 10:13am

Very infantile debating from you.

You’re actually embarrassing yourself now in a fit of pique.

glasagusban · October 11, 2021, 10:14am

I’ve given you the counterpoints. Skill, speed, character. You’ve ignored them, twice. Very poor debating.

Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy · October 11, 2021, 10:16am

I haven’t ignored them. You seem to have ignored that his size had anything to do with it?

Do you concede he was one of the biggest heavyweights in his era? Do you think he’d have been able to dominate his era if he was 6ft?

glasagusban · October 11, 2021, 10:17am

Yes.

Tassotti · October 11, 2021, 10:26am

Fury is seriously underrated still. I can’t get my head around it. He has savage movement and skill for a man of his size, as for the lad who said he hasn’t got a chin! FFS. We all know the real reason a lot of people don’t like him or respect him as a fighter

Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy · October 11, 2021, 10:27am

I don’t think he would have. Because he loses his biggest asset, his reach, his size, his jab. Ali did not have serious power so if he couldn’t keep the range with his bigger and heavier hitting opponents then he’d be in bother. His ability to control the ring was from his size.

Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy · October 11, 2021, 10:28am

He dominates any heavyweight era for me. He’s just too big and can box.

Tassotti · October 11, 2021, 10:29am

He’s up there. Best British heavyweight ever anyway. That’s for sure.

glasagusban · October 11, 2021, 10:29am

Agree to disagree.

Fagan_ODowd · October 11, 2021, 10:44am

I’ll just leave this here. Mike Tyson rarely had a height/weight/reach advantage on any boxer he fought. In fact I would say he was at a disadvantage in every championship bout he fought except maybe for Holyfield. Yet he was the vastly dominant fighter of his era. The notion that a good big un will always beat a good small un is a pretty sweeping generalisation.

Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy · October 11, 2021, 10:46am

There were no good big uns in Tyson’s era.

Fagan_ODowd · October 11, 2021, 10:47am

Don’t be silly.

Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy · October 11, 2021, 10:49am

Who?

Fagan_ODowd · October 11, 2021, 10:57am

You.

Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy · October 11, 2021, 10:59am

I wasn’t a natural heavyweight bro, but I could trade blows with them no bother.

Biff_Egan · October 11, 2021, 11:09am

Young Fury arguably lost to John McDermott and was ducking David Price.

Ashman · October 11, 2021, 11:14am

Riddick Bowe was an amazing talent .

pulpfiction · October 11, 2021, 12:30pm

Ali would have pucked the chops off any heavyweight of any era. Go way and watch the Cleveland Williams fight and tell me a big lumbering ape would have lived with that speed and footwork