BREXIT thread

Ah yes, the Friedman wet dream.
Anyone else do An Duchasach Deireanach in school?
Essel and Maxtex :money_mouth_face:

Don’t know much about her but she always came across as a Tory cap doffer which seemed unusual (for the beeb to allow)

One man’a coup is another’s constitutional procedure. They should have an election before 31 October.

Feel the sovereignty

I especially like this bit

An amendment tabled by rebel-in-chief Grieve theoretically forces Parliament to sit if the government attempts to force through no-deal via prorogation. But the amendment states that Parliament would not have to sit on a bank holiday. Parliamentary expert Joe Armitage says the Banking and Financial Dealings Act 1971 stipulates that the government could ask the Queen to create a new bank holiday — or even a local bank holiday in an unpopulated area of the UK — that would thereby prevent Parliament from sitting. This proposal was looked at by Downing Street.

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She’s that but she’s also an access journalist and therefore useless, her whole schtick depends on being pally with Tories, the whole thing is just a game involving different reality TV characters to these types, it’s politics as dumb entertainment

She’s far from alone in that uselessness

There’s a whole revolving door thing going on with “pol corrs” as they like to call themselves, they all come from a certain class and socialise with a certain type of person, they have a certain worldview in which certain opinions by people from a certain cossetted class are considered “normal”

There is nothing more “normal” within the world of establishment British political media than anarcho-capitalist fetishism, and there is no more cossetted class than the Etonian Brexiteer set and the 19th century “buccaneering” “global Britain” fetishists

But even the mildest social democracy lies outside that window

Guess who wrote this

21 Jun 2007

It’s the arrogance. It’s the contempt. That’s what gets me. It’s Gordon Brown’s apparent belief that he can just trample on the democratic will of the British people. It’s at moments like this that I think the political world has gone mad, and I am alone in detecting the gigantic fraud.

Everybody seems to have forgotten that the last general election was only two years ago, in 2005. A man called Tony Blair presented himself for re-election, and his face was to be seen - even if less prominently than in the past - on manifestos, leaflets, television screens and billboards. We rather gathered from the Labour prospectus that said Blair was going to be Prime Minister. Indeed, Tony sought a new mandate from the British electorate with the explicit promise that he would serve a full term.

The British public sucked its teeth, squinted at him closely, sighed and, with extreme reluctance, decided to elect him Prime Minister for another five years. Let me repeat that. They voted for Anthony Charles Lynton Blair to serve as their leader. They were at no stage invited to vote on whether Gordon Brown should be PM.

I must have knocked on hundreds of doors during that campaign, and heard all sorts of opinions of Mr Blair, not all of them favourable. But I do not recall a single member of the public saying that he or she was yearning for Gordon Brown to take over. Perhaps I missed it, but I don’t remember any Labour spokesman revealing that they planned to do a big switcheroo after only two years.


In 2005, there was a large number who voted Labour on the strength of a dwindling but still significant respect for the Prime Minister. They voted for Tony, and yet they now get Gordon, and a transition about as democratically proper as the transition from Claudius to Nero. It is a scandal.

Why are we all conniving in this stitch-up? This is nothing less than a palace coup, effected by the Brownites, and it is possible only because Tony had run out of road. He knew that the Brownites would eventually assassinate him, and so he decided to go “at a time of his own choosing” and, with North Korean servility, the Labour Party has handed power over to the brooding Scottish power-maniac.

The extraordinary thing is that it looks as though he will now be in 10 Downing Street for three years, and without a mandate from the British people. No one elected Gordon Brown as Prime Minister

It’s like something Mugabe would do in Zimbabwe

It´s time for us to stop looking at the UK and trying to copy everything the do from housing to health etc, and look to the “mainland” from now on. The Brits are out out out. The French and Germans, Italians and Spanish are our real allies.

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Despite the rubbish on twitter amongst the usual snowflakes this move has gone down well in England. Extreme measures are required when democracy continues to be subverted by a unrepresentative remainer parliament. Fair play to Bozo and Cummins for this ingenuis move.

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They are in their hole . We have no allies anywhere , brits , Americans or EU . When our interests are in sync with theirs we can be besties . Don’t kid yourself .

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For what mate?

That’s a fact, when they need a stop over air base the yanks love us or similarly the brits when the needed another vote in the EU or good beef…

We are an island and need to think like that a little more.

Listened to Radio 4 this morning. It must be soothing for the average British person to be listening to those Etonian voices directing their future.

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One should always know ones betters.

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Etonians are the real outsiders, mate

Toffs are the new working class

It was nice to hear JRM remind listeners of how lucky they were to have such a wonderful monarch. He then paid compliment to John Humphrys on his long and distinguished career and commented on how it always gave him a frisson to be interviewed by someone who had in turn interviewed Margaret Thatcher in her prime.

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Nearly two years old but still true today

As Kissinger said quite rightly- Foreign policy is nothing more than the linking of the world through self interest.

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It’s like something Mugabe was doing in Zimbabwe…

It’s like something Trump would do in the US