BREXIT thread

I’ll defer here

I’ll just pick one part of a line out of @anon7035031’s load of absolute rot above

I think it’s the most instructive one

To him, the worker should always be a subservient pawn with no rights

This is the very heart of his worldview and it’s the worldview that has the UK and US in the very mess they are in with extreme wealth inequality - it’s the worldview of the 1920s robber barons

Just reading that line alone is frightening, it is highly dangerous extremist zealotry

Another blatant contradiction is that he praises trade wars while simultaneously lambasting them

When you take a football team approach to politics, ie. “your team are to blame for everything” even when the most cursory reading of any situation shows such a reading to be laughably inaccurate, and you support the nonsensical moronicism of a charlatan because he’s “on your side”, these are the ridiculous contradictions you walk into

He’s far from alone among the right-wing zealots on this forum

The knots they’ve tied themselves into are hilarious

If it wasn’t for Capitalism you’d have no cheap guitars to smash.

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There were guitars before there were Murdochs mate

Thank you Labour Party.

Keep up the good work.

Dominic Cummings says Hi

Corbyn’s position on Brexit now is different to what it was last February

Elements of it are problematic but by and large it is sensible

As you admit

There is no possible Brexit policy which will not have some problematic elements, there is no silver bullet

Labour’s policy on Brexit is by a mile the best of the three major parties

Neither has Corbyn

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I don’t follow you mate. You’re making little sense this afternoon.

If you had even worked for a living you would know what I’m saying is true.

US corporations by and large treat their employees very fairly. Ask around and see how those working in Medtronics and Boston Scientific in Galway feel about their employment conditions, wages, etc. Unions destroy opportunity for most workers by insisting everyone is treated the same, whether they are good at their job or absolutely shit at it.

The problem of those “left behind” you refer to is equally shared between government and workers themselves. Government failed to keep public education up to date with the modern economy, and workers themselves failed to seek the education that the new economy needs. There isn’t much demand for journalists for example, yet hoardes still do degrees in communications and other bullshit subjects.

There is a shortage of qualified people for the jobs the economy actually needs. There are millions of unfilled well paying jobs in the US, with no one to fill them, largely because younger people are pursuing the wrong education choices, or are too lazy and want everything handed to them on a plate.

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This afternoon?

I’ll simplify things as much as I can for you. Jeremy is not the evil your are told he is. He is actually a genuine and decent man. Your irrational hatred of him has you blinkered. The opposition are much more wicked. But if you must support them thats fine, we live in an age of identity politics and you clearly identify more with Cummings than Corbyn.

Hope that helps I made it as simple as I could

Nothing new there.

That’s demonstrably untrue

He is the only party leader proposing a sensible way out of the mess which will try and respect everybody

Crucially, he offers a democratic avenue out of Brexit altogether, and is prepared to offer it against a Brexit deal he negotiates

He is even prepared to let the Labour party democratically decide to reject a Brexit deal he negotiates and campaign against it in a referendum

That is the very definition of political bravery, it is country and society over himself and party

Compare that to the Tories lying to the Queen and threatening to break the law to get a disastrous no deal which nobody voted for

Compare that to the Lib Dems just wanting to pull Article 50 without consultation, without thought for the future consequences that would have for British democracy

Both are toys out of the pram stuff

Corbyn is the adult in the room

Need more apprenticeships and trades. Coming back now though.

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We already know what you think of workers, mate

We already know what you think of workers’ rights

You spelled it out in black and white in your previous post

It’s obscene

Copying and pasting tired right wing cliches from Wall Street Journal comment sections does not an argument make

Load of bullshit. He’s taking a wait and see attitude. Talking out of both sides out of his mouth. All he’ll succeed in doing is driving the remain labour to the lib dems and the Labour Brexit vote to the tories/Brexit party. He’s a clusterfuck

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I am a worker, mate.

Checkmate.