If that’s the way you want to spin your continual defence of Peter Lawwell fair enough. Most of us are intelligent enough to see behind it.
12 months from now we’ll be going around chasing our tails trying to chase a few more EPL misfits after flogging Edouard on top of another season of underinvestment. We’ll probably have lost the title and have a new out of hid depth, second rate, cheap option manager.
Lawwell is absolutely destroying this club.
Hard to know which one is more shameless
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Why is it OK for clubs like Arsenal, Inter Milan and Bayern Munich to have loan signings but not Celtic?
Because they don’t have the budget to comply with FFP.
Inter have had a net spend of around €80m.
Bayern Munich a net spend of around €80m.
Arsenal a net spend of around £84m.
Any more of an outlay on transfers will probably run the risk of breaching FFP.
Celtic have a net intake of £13m currently, had a net intake of £18m last year and that’s not including the amount approaching £15m they took in from the Rodgers compensation package and Van Dijk sell on clause.
They have no debt, £50m in the bank and seem intent of flogging their best players year on year and replacing them with cheap rate inferior options and plugging gaps for one season with loan signings they have no intention of keeping.
The difference with those clubs is that they will make a concerted effort to sign their loan players if things go well. Celtic won’t if they have to pay anything substantial (which they could clearly) for them.
Eh do you not remember us breaking our transfer record for Edouard last summer? After having him on loan for the season before.
That sort of makes a nonsense of your argument.
How many other loan signings have we kept?
Scott Bain was it?
So 1 of about 20 is good for you? Right
Did you want us to keep Toljan or Burke or Weah for the prices quoted? I don’t think any of them were worth it.
Benkovic possibly but would also have cost a small fortune in wages and fees and he’s not that much better than anything we have.
Loans represent an affordable way for us to attract talent we can’t get outright (some of whom will be too expensive, others who wouldn’t want to join us permanently).
Edouard has been an enormous success and it blows your entire theory out of the water.
What about Burke, Roberts, Arzani, Benkovic, Toljan, Gershon, Brozek, Weah, Miku, Berget, Guidetti, Blackett, Tonev, Wakaso, Denayer?
Give me fucking strength if you’re defending that strategy.
The best case scenario is this guy will come in and do well. He will then leave at the end of the summer, give us a big gap to fill and we will be going around this time next year chasing our tails asking English clubs which of their cast offs we can have this year.
It’s regressive and embarrassing.
Once again you are defined by your relationship with English clubs. It’s not really relevant.
3 of those players were good enough after their loan spell to be attractive to buy.
Roberts signed for another 12 months meaning we had him for 2.5 years which was a very good stretch. He was disappointing the second time anyway and wasn’t worth the fees quoted. Still we got good value from him.
Benkovic was too expensive once we lost out to Leicester anyway. No harm in having him last season and he wouldn’t have signed permanently for us.
Denayer was reasonable but young and had a mixed career afterwards. Again he wasn’t interested in signing permanently but we got reasonable value for him.
I’m glad we loaned the likes of Blackett and Toljan who came with big reputations and could have been bought outright but were inept and we were able to send them back without worrying about it.
I’m glad we spent money on Jullien to replace Benkovic and Boyata. I’m glad we didn’t spend money on Forster without first figuring out if he is still up to it. Same with Bauer.
There’s a balance to these things but you don’t really do balance do you?
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So it’s not the loans you disagree with then, it’s not spending money. You are right on a number of things, especially the farcical reappointment of Lennon. However signing a 25 year old on loan that cost his club £16m last year and will strengthen a position of weakness is not something to be crying about. Even if he does only last a season, Celtic have youth coming through in that position that should be competing for 1st team places next season. You were calling for this very position to be strengthened earlier in the summer because Arzani and Johnson are unproven yet, not much point spending £16m there if you think the long term solutions are already at the club.
The rumours at the start of the week were 3 more signings - 1 permanent and 2 loans. We’ve had the 2 loans now so it looks like it’s just the signing of Taylor to come.
Incorrect.
If we are in the market for players we should be doing it on the basis of fixing the issue long term, particularly when our resources allow us too.
It shows an extreme lack of foresight and ambition to be going around knocking on the door on English clubs to ask which of their cast offs we can borrow.
It’s an absolutely pathetic return on the Tierney money.
So what was your solution for the left side? Buy someone for big money to play ahead of Arzani and Johnson?
Paddy mcnair on the way it seems
What would I give a fuck about Arzani for? He’s a another loanee.
Buy a player who we will have to develop, let that player battle out with Johnston for a starting spot.
So your view is its better to have 3 unproven players fighting for 1 position than an established player on loan and 2 young prospects? No matter what the approach you seem to have a whinge about it.
Cicero has a curious relationship with the financial side of things.
He’s obsessed with owning players so we can sell them then for a profit instead of loaning players and making no profit but having lower risk.
The Tierney situation proves that the top players will always leave Celtic. We’ll have to sell Edouard sooner rather than later. We will make reasonable money out of that but ultimately it’s the value we get from him over his time at the club that’s more important than any shrewd financial gains.
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