And another one against Jablonec he got away with along with a poor goal he let in during the away leg too.
Heās been a mixed bag, some great saves and some very worrying errors and lapses of concentration.
If prefer Forster too but heās not willing to play for Celtic unfortunately. And heād also really struggle in this system because his two weakest areas are kicking the ball and coming off his line.
But heās a terrific shot stopper and would prefer him. But Hart has the experience and character to be an important player and the whole defence looks better since he came in. Though I do agree that they need more time to get familiar.
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Iād agree with this, but for a long time pre Celtic heās looked uncertain whether to come or go. He seems to judge a ball in flight poorly, but has outstanding agility and reactions.
The fact is a complete novice like Welsh who we had no great expectations of and has a handful of games for Celtic looks like Baresi beside Starfelt is sobering.
Starfelt may come good with time but right now heās a complete liability.
I agree, I was really saying it as a way to illustrate that starfeldt can be an excellent signing, and needs time and games as do the defence as a unit. Ange seems to be the antithesis of George Graham (fortunately)
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So you donāt think signing a better player than Hart as a goalkeeper means weāre not replacing him? You said he is bound to implode before January so we need to have someone lined up for then.
Itās simply ridiculous
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Heās just after moving, English isnāt his first language, never mind Glaswegian, and is probably still living out of a suitcase.
I think itās a great signing. Big difference in a just gone 23 year old with European appearances/ domestic success who will be in the next Ireland squad and the kid Rovers plucked off Ucd two years ago. His versatility across the back and options he gives Ange in a back 4/5 should be great for all purposes as well, not a hindrance to his development
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I really hope so. It could be great for scales and Celtic, or bad for all three parties. If hes a grafter, he has every chance, but heās a punt nonetheless, and itās a slight indictment of where the club is that heās being talked of as a starter on Sunday.
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Welsh was really poor for Hartās right handed save last night. Starfelt had to come all the way across to force the striker to shoot early because Welsh got badly caught ball watching. Starfelt did really well there even though he got no block in. He anticipated the error and showed good pace to get across and make the chance more difficult.
Which isnāt to criticise Welsh but theyāve both made errors with and without the ball. But it will take time to get to terms with this system and even then theyāll likely make more errors than defenders for other teams because of what theyāre being asked to do.
No I think it means weāre putting him as our back up goalie or that we have a genuine alternative to him rather than Scott Fucking Bain? Would you not agree it would be good to have a better or more reliable keeper available?
Iām saying heās bound to implode before January as itās likely when you look at his recent track record. Itās simply ridiculous that once again you have all the excuses in early for incompetence at boardroom level. You defended those that put us in this shitshow to begin with and now want more of the same with the usual mistakes being made.
On what planet would it be bad for the club aiming to improve areas of weakness?
On what planet would it be bad for the club to have forward planning in place?
On what planet would it be bad for the club to have better and more reliable players available?
On what planet is it bad for the squad to be stronger in depth?
It seems you know the reality if that the board have learned little in the way of lessons but want to throw them a few get out clauses rather than apply some accountability when it goes wrong.
Thereās a chance Edouard will go now before the deadline closes for Ā£15m plus, we might replace him with a Kevin Nisbet/Giakoumakis/EPL loanee type player for a mere fraction of the cost who is not remotely up to the job of replacing him and guess what? If that comes to fruition, you will be here defending that incompetence, that biscuit tin mentality that has led us to the shitshow we were in last season and you will do it with gusto and defiance.
It needs a very experienced keeper with strong character to play the role being asked. I watched the game with some season ticket holders in a pub in Glasgow last night and they were screaming at Hart to stay in his goal, yet the system demands he play as a sweeper and take risks. Overcoming that in a stadium is not something a novice keeper will manage. Still no excuse for his error last night though.
I donāt understand though how anyone can think that Celtic can sign 2 centre halfās for Ā£4m & Ā£8m, pay both of them nearly Ā£1m a year salary, and still go out and spend more on another centre half. Surely when you make these signings you back your judgement and donāt panic after a handful of games.
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Itās night and day the errors they have made.
Welsh has made a few errors here and there but he was very good on the main last night and had three or four huge interventions in the first 5 minutes after half time alone.
Starfelt on the other hand looks like a ticking bombscare right now. I know itās early and I wonāt write him off just yet but if you canāt see we badly, badly, badly need a new first team quality centre half in right now then I give up. If you really think that then you have no credibility here, youāre only on here to divert attention away from the board failings.
Sutton called it bang on after the game last night as he usually does. The board simply have to back their manager now. You seem to want to give the board a free pass on their duty to get the best players in the most obvious problem areas.
Ā£20m in the bank and the fact they sold a centre half for more than those two chaps combined this year. The fact that they shed huge amounts of the wage bill this season, the fact that the CEO was the highest earning employee at the club over the past number of years would just be a handful of reasons.
Of course Celtic can afford it but the board will want to find ways they can siphon money out of the club into their pocketsā¦
Iād also highly doubt Starfelt is on anywhere close to 20k a week.
Youāre a very angry young man. You have some bizarre notions about what a board does and doesnāt do. You have a wonderful ability to get yourself annoyed by a hypothesis youāve just created in your own head.
If we sell Edouard Iād like to see him replaced with a big money signing. I think that would be next to impossible with the timing though. So Iām really hoping he doesnāt leave and we lose a few million but risk it on getting to next seasonās Champions League. If he does leave I think weāll find it hard to spend that money before January.
We had 4 new signings on the starting team last night. Two more to come into the team and Scales as well as the younger new lads who are in the squad.
I would like to see more players signed but given the turnover to date Iād be emphasising quality over quantity.
Saying they sold a centre half for more than that this year is a very simplistic way of looking at things though, they spent Ā£8m on attackers this summer but recouped very little from sales in that area of the field. Are there any clubs similar to Celtic who would sign a centre half for Ā£4m as backup?
Of course Iām pissed at the board. Your arrogance is utterly breathtaking, if I was as wrong on everything Celtic related the past 18 months as you have been Iād be mortified at some of the takes you have come out with.
After the Copenhagen game about 18 months ago, some of us actually could see the writing on the wall and there you were smugly laughing at us who pointed out Lennon was utterly out of his depth, reassuring us everything was ok. I know your arrogance makes you loathe even reflect back to how utterly wrong you were then and how the subsequent 18 months would make look like a pillock and a shill for the board but everything I said came to fruition.
So you can throw out the āangryā comments and that but they merely serve to deflect from the point that the common denominator is that donāt want the board to be held to account for their incompetence, their biscuit tin mentality, their old boys club and how it holds back the team. Key players hawked off at the first sign of an offer, other players let run their contracts down, consistent profits turned over on transfers which never gets reinvested into the first team, an arrogant ned as manager destroying the team for the past 2 years and everything you said was defending it all.
Everything with you is a steadfast defence of the board. Itās not me who doesnāt understand the function of a board in club football, itās you who has been wrong, wrong, wrong for years but is too arrogant to finally face the truth.
A Celtic fan averse to the club doing things that might actually benefit on the pitch. Unbelievable.
Itās not simplistic, itās factual.
They have a net profit for transfers this summer. 4 years on the trot now I think and they are debt free with cash reserves in the bank.
Their highest earner over the past number of seasons was the CEO who refused to invest in the club and was repsonsible for the shitshow last season.
There are plenty of clubs similar to Celtic who would have a Ā£4m centre half as backup.
Is it automatic qualification next year for SPL champions?
Amen to that.