Tis up in 8 different chunks on youtube. Have you any tickets spare?
[quote=âWatch The Break, post: 837392, member: 260â]If Clareâs half-backline plays as well as they did in the drawn game Clare will almost certainly win. If Clare have that platform I donât think Cork can hold them from 8-15. Cork will set out to make it much harder for the Clare backs to break forward with ball but they possibly donât have the players with the workrate to do that.
Iâd expect Cork to bring more intensity to the game at the same time. They got out-worked and out-fought the last day in too many positions and they know it.[/quote]
Thatâs a pretty stupid post. The first line is particularly stupid.
It may have escaped your notice, but Cork and Clare drew the last game. There is absolutely no reason why Cork couldnât have win the last day, and nearly did, despite Clareâs half backs playing very well.
Itâs brain dead to ignore the actual final result.
Up de banner.
[quote=âchewy louie, post: 837454, member: 1137â]Tis up in 8 different chunks on youtube. Have you any tickets spare?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTj1j6TSJtU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psb6m342m20
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Iâm sure if give the chairman or secretary a ring theyâll have some. Only 3 of te lads have taken their two tickets this time.
Yeah, contacted the Offaly lad last night and he had told the county board he didnât want them. Iâd say I am on the same flight over as them so might try and blag one or two if I can.
When you flying over? Many of your lot hurling in the morning? Chairman will have bags of them donât you worry.
Honestly donât know how many they will have in the morning, there is training tonight, finding it tough to get regular number. Presume they will have a dozen or so and a few Casement lads thrown in to make up numbers
Fly over early Saturday and back early Sunday
think Clare will win thisâŚeveryone says Cork wonât be as bad as last day but the truth is I donât think Cork have much more to themâŚwhoâs the ref on sunday? a good referee on a sunday will hopefully start giving frees against the cynical cork defenceâŚwould like to see a bit more interplay in Clare full forward lineâŚthey should be going for goal a lot moreâŚCâmon the banner !
[quote=âchewy louie, post: 837462, member: 1137â]Honestly donât know how many they will have in the morning, there is training tonight, finding it tough to get regular number. Presume they will have a dozen or so and a few Casement lads thrown in to make up numbers
Fly over early Saturday and back early Sunday[/quote]
Same as our lads. That plane will be mighty Craic Iâd say. Weâve had two lads from te university doing fitness with us the last 6/7weeks. No hurling whatsoever done. Lads getting annoyed at this stage.
Eire og got 350 the first day, or so a member told me. I donât think Iâve ever heard of a club getting 500, birr? Crossmaglen? Either way seem to be fairly thin on the ground but I have one got but not delighted with it, in the corner of the Cusack though, after my central Cusack position the last day I wonât settle for anything less.
[quote=âcaoimhaoin, post: 837455, member: 273â]Thatâs a pretty stupid post. The first line is particularly stupid.
It may have escaped your notice, but Cork and Clare drew the last game. There is absolutely no reason why Cork couldnât have win the last day, and nearly did, despite Clareâs half backs playing very well.
Itâs brain dead to ignore the actual final result.[/quote]
Cork hit only four wides, canât remember what Clare had but it was a lot more. They got three goals, Clare got none. Neither of those things are likely to happen again.
When Donegal beat Tyrone in the Ulster football championship this year, people were euologising how frighteningly efficient they were in that match, completely neglecting how they were outplayed for the majority of it. That there was no way they would hit so few wides (4) and score goals at vital times in every match was ignored. But the cracks were there and they were exposed in later matches. For me the same is true of Corkâs performance in the first game as of Donegalâs performance against Tyrone. The cracks are there.
You say that Corkâs performance was much better than people were saying. I would not take that as a good sign for Cork, as itâs thatâs a clear indication that you donât believe thereâs much room for improvement there. Iâd agree with that. I donât think there is much room for improvement.
Clare and Cork have played five times this year, and from what I have seen Clare have generally had the upper hand. They are clearly the better hurlers, and the better team usually wins the replay. Last year Kilkenny got 19 scores to Galwayâs 15 in the draw. This year Clare got 25 to Corkâs 19.
Iâd be surprised if Clare do not win the majority of the individual battles again, and Cork will need so many things to go right for them to win this, which I canât see happening.
I can see Clare winning by 7-9 at least. I went for them to win the drawn game 2-23 to 1-17, and Iâm sticking with that.
@caoimhaoin âŚhang up the mouse palâŚyouâve been badly exposed on several GAA mattersâŚstick to talking about kettlebells âŚ
@chewy louie[/USER] and Diarmuid OâFlynn are correct and @[USER=273]caoimhaoin is wrong yet again. Clare didnât play a sweeper / extra defender against Cork in Munster.
They initially used it in the championship against Galway with Dillon man marking Canning, Conor Ryan playing centre back and Donnellan sweeping behind him and in front of Canning/Dillon.
They set up similarly against Limerick in the semi-final before reverting to a traditional 6-2-6 in the drawn final.
[quote=âSidney, post: 837478, member: 183â]Cork hit only four wides, canât remember what Clare had but it was a lot more. They got three goals, Clare got none. Neither of those things are likely to happen again.
When Donegal beat Tyrone in the Ulster football championship this year, people were euologising how frighteningly efficient they were in that match, completely neglecting how they were outplayed for the majority of it. That there was no way they would hit so few wides (4) and score goals at vital times in every match was ignored. But the cracks were there and they were exposed in later matches. For me the same is true of Corkâs performance in the first game as of Donegalâs performance against Tyrone. The cracks are there.
You say that Corkâs performance was much better than people were saying. I would not take that as a good sign for Cork, as itâs thatâs a clear indication that you donât believe thereâs much room for improvement there. Iâd agree with that. I donât think there is much room for improvement.
Clare and Cork have played five times this year, and from what I have seen Clare have generally had the upper hand. They are clearly the better hurlers, and the better team usually wins the replay. Last year Kilkenny got 19 scores to Galwayâs 15 in the draw. This year Clare got 25 to Corkâs 19.
Iâd be surprised if Clare do not win the majority of the individual battles again, and Cork will need so many things to go right for them to win this, which I canât see happening.
I can see Clare winning by 7-9 at least. I went for them to win the drawn game 2-23 to 1-17, and Iâm sticking with that.[/quote]
Me saying Corks performance was under rated does not translate to them not having room for big improvement. They do not automatically follow, I thought you were more intelligent than that.
If Cork bring their intensity to the levels of Dublin and KK games what will Clare have then?
The analogy is retarded as that game was won by Donegal. The Cork-Clare game was a draw.
Cork and Clare Drew The last game, Cork WON the game just previous. Iâm not sure how that gives a finality in who the better team is. You seem to have decided (like the rest of Clare) that potential means success. Itâs hilarious how people think Clare have the All Ireland won, they won the All Ireland after a draw.
[quote=âcaoimhaoin, post: 837499, member: 273â]Me saying Corks performance was under rated does not translate to them not having room for big improvement. They do not automatically follow, I thought you were more intelligent than that.
If Cork bring their intensity to the levels of Dublin and KK games what will Clare have then?
The analogy is retarded as that game was won by Donegal. The Cork-Clare game was a draw.
Cork and Clare Drew The last game, Cork WON the game just previous. Iâm not sure how that gives a finality in who the better team is. You seem to have decided (like the rest of Clare) that potential means success. Itâs hilarious how people think Clare have the All Ireland won, they won the All Ireland after a draw.
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If you think Cork have room for big improvement after an All-Ireland final, you clearly think their performance wasnât very good. Just say it. Because youâre contradicting yourself otherwise.
Donegal got every break going and won. Cork got every break going and didnât win. Thatâs the difference.
Iâm not talking about potential. Iâm talking about who has the better hurlers now. Thatâs Clare. Cork are carrying passengers.
[quote=âSidney, post: 837505, member: 183â]If you think Cork have room for big improvement after an All-Ireland final, you clearly think their performance wasnât very good. Just say it. Because youâre contradicting yourself otherwise.
Donegal got every break going and won. Cork got every break going and didnât win. Thatâs the difference.
Iâm not talking about potential. Iâm talking about who has the better hurlers now. Thatâs Clare. Cork are carrying passengers.[/quote]
You are veering into Mac stupidity now.
I can see Cork improving, I think theyâll better prepared for Clareâs tackling in their own half of the field this time, and tactically I think theyâll be more on the ball in terms of taking on the Clare half-backline. The flip-side is that theyâre unlikely to get three goals against the run of play again, and if they are to out-goal Clare 3-0 theyâll have to be doing much better in general play than they did in the drawn game.
The performance of the Clare half-backline is everything. If Cork can get on top in that sector it both cuts off the supply to Collins, Kelly & co. and forces the Clare midfield and half-forward line to play 15-20 yards deeper which disrupts Clareâs game hugely. I think the question is how Cork can do better in that sector. Can they find a way to deliver better quality ball from the back despite Clareâs pressure, or can they do much better in the aerial exchanges and broken ball from their own puckout. If they can do either than it changes the game.
Kev, your GAA analysis has been laughably off the mark this year. Just accept it, move on and try to become more informed.
Fella Iâve about a 90% prediction rate.