Ah lovely
Oh jesus, the final nail. Good luck.
Thats the shit. He done a few more of the old school quick ball into the full forward line as well.
He’s gone off the scene is he?
bad injury last year kev, cruciate if im not mistaken should be back this year, although i havent heard his name mentioned.
No wonder 2005 was such a good year for them with that kind of skill level
I’m sick of dealing with the uneducated
Quigley’s due back at some stage in the league - great point that one, and he keeps it moving on the ground quite a bit, but he wouldn’t have been up to the level of Fenlon when it comes to ground hurling and striking in the air.
Not getting at lads like you (well I am really, Ballyhogue lads especially) but I can’t come close to understanding someone thinking that football, (one of the easiest game to play as shown by it’s spread across the country) comes remotely close, skill wise, to hurling.
I’ll never get that-it just plain baffles me.
I wouldn’t say kev even believes it
i concur pikey, our club plays mainly football, but weve made a big push in hurling over the years and the the disparity between the skill levels is quite apparent. perhaps its simply down to that we have rarely played hurling in the past.
one thing you neglected to mention re catching the ball in hurling, in football you dont have anyone with a 3 foot lump of timber trying to break your hand.
and kev, have you played hurling? my apologies if you have, perhaps you are equally talented at both games, but you dont seem to grasp the skill required in hurling
Even the basic skills like picking a ball up are next to impossible for someone who’s never learned them, never mind controlling a ball at pace, striking on the run, or defensive skills like hooking opponents. Even holding a hurley correctly requires a certain level of knowledge. The football skills are just so basic by comparision.
Just to give a real world example here, Cratloe won a senior hurling title in Clare last year and got to a Munster Intermediate football final…They did about 120 hurling training sessions in that time and with 12 of the hurlers starting for the footballers they just showed up for their league matches and only started training for the football the week before the championship and only had football sessions in the week leading up to a championship match and had about 25 football training sessions in total…
st martins do something similar in wexford pukey, they won intermediate about 4 years ago without training, albeit they had a young ciaran lyngcome back fomr england to help out. But the time invested in both does tell a story
Well if roles were reversed and a club that had a senior football and an intermediate hurling team there would be no way in hell that they would be able to win an intermediate title with only 25 sessions and fitness…
thats what i mean, hurling takes precedence down there as they dont see the skills in football as that hard to master
Sure it’s the same with the Mills in the football puke. All hurlers but if you’re reasonably fit and have the hand/eye co-ordination that hurling requires then football isn’t too difficult to pick up. The point is though that the reverse simply isn’t true.
Don’t forget Rapparees-Starlights-only train football properly when they’re knocked out of the hurling-and they won a Senior football title a few years ago and got to one or two other finals also.
I have coached both sports Pike, for the very small fellas in the past, mostly football up the line though. Other than the fellas who are scared shitless, most guys take to both sports at the same time. I believe coaching and club laziness has alot to do with where hurling is now.
Personally i think that hurling people use “football is easy” to cover up their own ineptitude. Football being all around the country has nothing to do with hurling. If they can have a successful dual club in places like Valley Rovers Innishannon, Newcestown in Cork, Loughmore-Castleiney, Ardmore, Waterford in Tipp (and many many other places around the country) then anyone can do it.
Hurling people tend to expect the game to look after itself, because of its perceived popularity. The fastest game in the world…blaa blaa blaa. When only for a few Paudie Butlers it would be dead and buries. the clubs in the north have really taken this on, and are reall GAA clubs, giving hurling a real go, and promoting it almost to the same level as football in traditionally football only areas.
Don’t get me confused with someone who doesn’t like hurling, i still love it, but for me it is loosing its allure quickly. But the stuff i enjoyed, and this is just my own personal enjoyment of the game growing up, is going. I myself became very good at striking off both sides, doubling, ground hurling, sidelines etc cos thats what i really liked about the game, and i practiced those skills, and was encouraged . And its what suited my abilities as well maybe. 
The bolded part is idiotic, thats down to coaching. If you give anyone a stick and send them out they’ll hold it the way they pick up anything. Everyone learns at some stage how to hold it, but they are shown.
Firstly your talking about guys taking up a sport at a late stage, what kind of a basis is that for an argument. So little people do that, so its redundant. And i absolutely know that they would struggle with the solo in football. I took up rugby at about 16-17. It took me an age to get the tackling correct, the rolling away and making sure the ball went back when i was tackled. But i played out half and full back, and my kicking was as good as any fella who played all their lives.
Basically what i’m saying is anyone can come in and have certain skills, be it athletic ability or whatever, and will be good at certain aspects, but will struggle at others. I know a present day professional rugby player who went back hurling after 10 years around Minor-U21. He was very very effective full forward and got a few goals over time. Didn’t mean hurling was easy, but he was able to use his strength in this case to be effective.
Valley Rovers in Cork just dispelled that theory last year, and could do it again this year. They train 2 night football, one night hurling.