You don’t seem like the type to go running back to anyone UM, however there are other sad cunts here who would love nothing more.
[QUOTE=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 1104418, member: 2272”]I won’t be anyway.
You have a view and you know a lot about the subject but I don’t think their injury record is poor.
My view is that they will do well this year as Landers has brought an aggression that was lacking before[/QUOTE]
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/physios-worried-at-quick-fix-operations-317627.html
Not just for you, but for everyone. Read the last line.
[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1104889, member: 273”]http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/physios-worried-at-quick-fix-operations-317627.html
Not just for you, but for everyone. Read the last line.[/QUOTE]
Eanna Falvey had a similar article last year about hip ops.
Dr. Eanna is bang on.
The last bit I refer to though is something most people, even good experienced and sometimes qualified coaches, ignore. Neural fatigue. Over training and multiple games lead you to doing things outside your normal patterns (of running, jumping, landing, twisting etc). This can often lead to injury (hammys & hip flexor) and sometimes serious injury like ACL’s.
all very true - Cahalane had a doube hip operation in 2013
there needs to be a County Tsar overseeing all training of players because at the moment players often play for multiple teams and even if not doing all the training with the teams have games, travel time etc. Ultimately playing for more than one team will become impossible and it is heading that way in terms of club versus county
[QUOTE=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 1104902, member: 2272”]all very true - Cahalane had a doube hip operation in 2013
there needs to be a County Tsar overseeing all training of players because at the moment players often play for multiple teams and even if not doing all the training with the teams have games, travel time etc. Ultimately playing for more than one team will become impossible and it is heading that way in terms of club versus county[/QUOTE]
Ya, that op should never have happened and there is a worry now it may not have worked or he was let back too soon or he’s just not able to sustain inter county training or/and because of (the most likely IMO) the damage is long since done from over training, dual commitments at a young age etc.
A big lawsuit is coming and will change the face of GAA training/coaching for ever. It will most likely turn more people off. They set up a coaching committee in cork recently but didn’t put any physio, doctor(sports medicine) or S&C coach on it. That doesn’t make a lot of sense.
[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1104062, member: 273”]ACL’s are largely avoidable and will be a rarity in 10-15 years
The landing awkwardly is a cop out.[/QUOTE]
Yeah?
How is that going to be achieved?
[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1104912, member: 273”]Ya, that op should never have happened and there is a worry now it may not have worked or he was let back too soon or he’s just not able to sustain inter county training or/and because of (the most likely IMO) the damage is long since done from over training, dual commitments at a young age etc.
A big lawsuit is coming and will change the face of GAA training/coaching for ever. It will most likely turn more people off. They set up a coaching committee in cork recently but didn’t put any physio, doctor(sports medicine) or S&C coach on it. That doesn’t make a lot of sense.[/QUOTE]
lawsuit is unlikely as causation would be next to impossible to prove unless somebody trained exclusively with GAA and one team his entire life and even then what did he do in free time - wear and tear injuries are just hard to pinpoint a cause
There is a tension as game becomes more elite and players are pulled earlier and earlier from clubs to county - add colleges into mix and the fact that it’s hard to sustain after marriage and kids and I don’t see an obvious solution - at the end of it all it is something people choose to do and some lads do choose not to do it
[QUOTE=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 1104933, member: 2272”]lawsuit is unlikely as causation would be next to impossible to prove unless somebody trained exclusively with GAA and one team his entire life and even then what did he do in free time - wear and tear injuries are just hard to pinpoint a cause
There is a tension as game becomes more elite and players are pulled earlier and earlier from clubs to county - add colleges into mix and the fact that it’s hard to sustain after marriage and kids and I don’t see an obvious solution - at the end of it all it is something people choose to do and some lads do choose not to do it[/QUOTE]
The Rugby model where lads are contracted to just play with province may be worth exploring. Clubs would be up in arms but having players contracted to play just with County would solve a lot of problems with respect to club fixtures, burnout etc.
A lot of these injuries are to do with lads carrying out too many horizontal Dutch monkey trapeze balance squats while failing to engage the sensory receptors in their big toes.
[QUOTE=“Bad Winner, post: 1104917, member: 2406”]Yeah?
How is that going to be achieved?[/QUOTE]
Better practice at training. Better S&C for young lads, more awareness of over training, less dual players, less demands - hopefully.
Most ACL damage is the result of weakening somewhere between 16 & 22/23. If this is sorted you’ll have less ACL’s down the road.
[QUOTE=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 1104933, member: 2272”]lawsuit is unlikely as causation would be next to impossible to prove unless somebody trained exclusively with GAA and one team his entire life and even then what did he do in free time - wear and tear injuries are just hard to pinpoint a cause
There is a tension as game becomes more elite and players are pulled earlier and earlier from clubs to county - add colleges into mix and the fact that it’s hard to sustain after marriage and kids and I don’t see an obvious solution - at the end of it all it is something people choose to do and some lads do choose not to do it[/QUOTE]
Of course there can be a law suit.
I’ll give an exams I heard of the other day. A guy is brought in, and paid, by a club to do the physical training of a team. There are minor players involve with the senior squad. He is unqualified and also over the top and brings many bad practices. There is a multitude of injuries at the club. The club never got him Garda vetted. One of the minor players is constantly injured and will miss out on playing county minor this year. Parents and kid are unhappy. The club are completely exposed.
Within the next couple of years there will be standards for coaching and training )or being a S&C coach implemented in GAA once insurance companies put the foot down. Many of the present IC coaches and trainers wouldn’t be allowed participate
No that’s the reason you are a sad single virgin.
[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1104948, member: 273”]Of course there can be a law suit.
I’ll give an exams I heard of the other day. A guy is brought in, and paid, by a club to do the physical training of a team. There are minor players involve with the senior squad. He is unqualified and also over the top and brings many bad practices. There is a multitude of injuries at the club. The club never got him Garda vetted. One of the minor players is constantly injured and will miss out on playing county minor this year. Parents and kid are unhappy. The club are completely exposed.
Within the next couple of years there will be standards for coaching and training )or being a S&C coach implemented in GAA once insurance companies put the foot down. Many of the present IC coaches and trainers wouldn’t be allowed participate[/QUOTE]
What has Garda vetting to do with any of that? Did he finger the young fella?
[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1104946, member: 273”]Better practice at training. Better S&C for young lads, more awareness of over training, less dual players, less demands - hopefully.
Most ACL damage is the result of weakening somewhere between 16 & 22/23. If this is sorted you’ll have less ACL’s down the road.[/QUOTE]
How specifically?
Torn ACL’s happen, it’s a natural weakness and impact is the only factor so I don’t understand where you are coming from.
Horizontal Dutch monkey trapeze balance squats actually engage your core and give you great thrusting power which is very useful for sexual intercourse.
I actively abstain from sexual acts as a lifestyle choice. As of a man of great moral fibre, I am not weighed down with the sick sexual kicks of a Cork weirdo. I am able to enjoy the more spiritually fulfilling moments in life.
The unqualified guy while training seniors was also over minors. Do you not get it? Of minors attend your training legally you are supposed to be vetted.
Would have no relevance to a claim for injuries against the club though.
[QUOTE=“Bad Winner, post: 1104953, member: 2406”]How specifically?
Torn ACL’s happen, it’s a natural weakness and impact is the only factor so I don’t understand where you are coming from.[/QUOTE]
He’s bullshitting, he hasn’t a notion what he is talking about.
The last two pages of this thread are a perfect example of the danger of a little bit of knowledge and a spoofer mind.