He is pretty mediocre but is a big unit and holds the line better than the other options.
Mediocre players donât tend to be big losses.
Usually. Not in this case. For the reasons outlined above.
But he is not Medicare by your own definition, you clearly say he is above it, which contradicts yourself. But it also contradicts your earlier view that he was shit.
[QUOTE=âcaoimhaoin, post: 970995, member: 273â]Heâs a joke. Wrecked after 20 mins an he makes a lot of tired decisions and from long distances. Nice fella Iâd say and I donât really remember him being biased or turning on anyone, but a shite ref.
All thatâs wrong with GAA.[/QUOTE]
This post - classic kev 
I agree he is not medicare Kev, but I donât remember saying otherwise.
[QUOTE=âcaoimhaoin, post: 971000, member: 273â]http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/hurling/treaty-chief-claims-fans-victims-of-decision-to-stage-final-at-pairc-273383.html
This lad I some hypocrite and joker. Clearly this WAS the cunt in the background pushing for a change. Not a man of his word this lad. Quite unlimerick like to be honest. They look like total fucktards here though. Using the âfansâ as any excuse to move it.
Any hurling people and regular fans will get into the game if they want.
Is he a complete retard as well? He has basically admitted to completely lying to everyone. I hope this cunt never gets further office as heâs a dangerous one Iâd say.[/QUOTE]
In fairness, Cork have been exposed as the true liars as Simon Moroney clearly takes issue with their spreading false claims of a capacity of 40k when they knew full well it was never anywhere near that.
What is Mann supposed to say? âWeâre delighted that so many many people will miss out on going to the gameâ I know the players couldnât give a fuck where the match is played and, from a team point of view, thatâs all that matters.
The only cunt who should never again hold office is that two-faced liar Frost. Couldnât wait to get a seeded football draw to maximise revenue yet allows the hurling final go to a 32k capacity stadium when they could have a potential gate of 47-48k. Thatâs hypocrisy for you.
Jinx 
[QUOTE=âcaoimhaoin, post: 971000, member: 273â]http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/hurling/treaty-chief-claims-fans-victims-of-decision-to-stage-final-at-pairc-273383.html
This lad I some hypocrite and joker. Clearly this WAS the cunt in the background pushing for a change. Not a man of his word this lad. Quite unlimerick like to be honest. They look like total fucktards here though. Using the âfansâ as any excuse to move it.
Any hurling people and regular fans will get into the game if they want.
Is he a complete retard as well? He has basically admitted to completely lying to everyone. I hope this cunt never gets further office as heâs a dangerous one Iâd say.[/QUOTE]
Regardless of the capacity the final will go ahead in Cork. While the Munster Council chairman insists that âthere was only one proposal on the table so there was no voteâ, Limerick were very much in a no win situation. Limerick did have a representative at themeeting (Munster Council delegate Mickey OâSullivan). It is understood that in the debate prior to the decision he stressed that Limerick would be looking for an initial ticket allocation of 15,000. However he was not instructed to propose a counter proposal as Limerick had insisted from the outset that they were willing to honour the home and away agreement and were only raising concerns about the capacity in an attempt to satisfy ticket demands.
[QUOTE=âTreatyStones, post: 971105, member: 1786â]Toora loora Lee
Weâll beat Cork by the Lee
Toora Loora lay
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:oops:
That was my corrigans brothers song
[QUOTE=âElvis Brandenberg Kremmen, post: 971047, member: 1624â]In fairness, Cork have been exposed as the true liars as Simon Moroney clearly takes issue with their spreading false claims of a capacity of 40k when they knew full well it was never anywhere near that.
What is Mann supposed to say? âWeâre delighted that so many many people will miss out on going to the gameâ I know the players couldnât give a fuck where the match is played and, from a team point of view, thatâs all that matters.
The only cunt who should never again hold office is that two-faced liar Frost. Couldnât wait to get a seeded football draw to maximise revenue yet allows the hurling final go to a 32k capacity stadium when they could have a potential gate of 47-48k. Thatâs hypocrisy for you.[/QUOTE]
Itâs not 32.
Mann should not open his mouth. He says he had no problem with the game in Cork. Yet when the final decision comes he had a huge issue.
He sounds like a total gobshite.
[QUOTE=âTreatyStones, post: 971105, member: 1786â]@caoimhaoin
Regardless of the capacity the final will go ahead in Cork. While the Munster Council chairman insists that âthere was only one proposal on the table so there was no voteâ, Limerick were very much in a no win situation. Limerick did have a representative at themeeting (Munster Council delegate Mickey OâSullivan). It is understood that in the debate prior to the decision he stressed that Limerick would be looking for an initial ticket allocation of 15,000. However he was not instructed to propose a counter proposal as Limerick had insisted from the outset that they were willing to honour the home and away agreement and were only raising concerns about the capacity in an attempt to satisfy ticket demands.[/QUOTE]
Your point?
[QUOTE=âcaoimhaoin, post: 971119, member: 273â]Itâs not 32.
Mann should not open his mouth. He says he had no problem with the game in Cork. Yet when the final decision comes he had a huge issue.
He sounds like a total gobshite.[/QUOTE]
It is 32. It may increase to 35.
You canât see any difference in the team not board having no problem playing in cork, not even raising an objection in fact, and having concerns about insufficient capacity?
Youâre doing your âIâm right despite all facts to the contraryâ thing again Kev.
You made out Limerick were scheming in the background to change the venue. The only place this agenda against Cork was mentioned was in the Cork mouthpiece. Whatâs disappointing is that the Munster Council have shown themselves to be serious hypocrites here. They had no problem introducing seeding in the football on the pretense that it was a financial imperative. Yet they can afford to turn down 250k by not hosting the game in Thurles. All Limerick did was raise concerns about the capacity. If they seriously wanted to game moved out of PUC they would have tabled a counter proposal and put it to a vote.
The Cork County Board (and yourself) argued last week the capacity of PUC was 40k when everybody knew it wouldnât get approval for next or near that. The majority of the scheming in this has been done by Cork and Frank Murphy.
Frank really does tear the Cork boys up inside. They claim to hate him, yet defend his machinations in the interest of Cork GAA to the hilt. It must really stick in the fuckers throats that heâs the greatest thing about Cork GAA for over 40 years.
[QUOTE=âTreatyStones, post: 971129, member: 1786â]You made out Limerick were scheming in the background to change the venue. The only place this agenda against Cork was mentioned was in the Cork mouthpiece. Whatâs disappointing is that the Munster Council have shown themselves to be serious hypocrites here. They had no problem introducing seeding in the football on the pretense that it was a financial imperative. Yet they can afford to turn down 250k by not hosting the game in Thurles. All Limerick did was raise concerns about the capacity. If they seriously wanted to game moved out of PUC they would have tabled a counter proposal and put it to a vote.
The Cork County Board (and yourself) argued last week the capacity of PUC was 40k when everybody knew it wouldnât get approval for next or near that. The majority of the scheming in this has been done by Cork and Frank Murphy.[/QUOTE]
Iâm not going to argue with much of that. My point is on Mann, more or less nothing else. Itâs clear he had an agenda ad tried to away Munster and on one hand was saying âoh ya, we have no problem with Corkâ while on the other working against that an then throwing the rattle out if the cot after the decision.
As a Cork person ad having a sentimental side to certain things and am happy itâs in Cork.
Practically and financially itâs obviously not ideal, however I think itâs a bit much for any team, Cork included, to get too worked up about tickets when the numbers for either team in previous games wouldnât fill the Stadium.
I hve little or no time for Frank, not much argument there.
Itâs going to be a great occassion either way. If the weather is good there will be a savage atmosphere around the place.
The Limerick Ultras are planning to turn the terrace into a sea of green with a display never before seen at a GAA match.
[QUOTE=âcaoimhaoin, post: 971148, member: 273â]Iâm not going to argue with much of that. My point is on Mann, more or less nothing else. Itâs clear he had an agenda ad tried to away Munster and on one hand was saying âoh ya, we have no problem with Corkâ while on the other working against that an then throwing the rattle out if the cot after the decision.
As a Cork person ad having a sentimental side to certain things and am happy itâs in Cork.
Practically and financially itâs obviously not ideal, however I think itâs a bit much for any team, Cork included, to get too worked up about tickets when the numbers for either team in previous games wouldnât fill the Stadium.
I hve little or no time for Frank, not much argument there.[/QUOTE]
Whatâs your point Kev, that youâre from Cork so are happy Cork âwon the argumentâ? Even though on any objective basis itâs stupid to play the game in Cork as you admit above.
I donât think itâs stupid and Iâm glad for once sentimentality, however it was achieved, beat money.
As well as the home and away arrangement of course which Limerick clearly wanted to renege on.
Cork should end H&A after it.