Coronavirus - Here come the variants

Stop testing.

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Sweden has been a success, a great success in relative terms. It just melts your head they haven’t locked people up showing a common sense alternative to your dream of wfh and having an excuse not to leave your gaff. You’re the type of curtain twitcher that loves that people aren’t out enjoying life.

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Standing still with schools open is probably a decent result. The UK reckon the schools are worth 0.5 of an r rate

Even the Telegraph has taken pity on the clusterfuck that is the EU vaccine shambles.

Just as in 1945, Britain can offer victory in Europe
The European Union wants to grab supplies of the AstraZeneca vaccine, including those from the Halix factory in Leyden, Holland. This is particularly rich, since Halix’s production success owes much to a team sent over at Christmas by Kate Bingham’s Vaccine Task Force. The company was lagging behind the production of the same vaccine in Oxford. It needed our help to achieve the necessary scale by installing 1,000-litre bio-reactors.

Britain was able to step in because it was about five months ahead of EU plans for vaccine deployment. Its assistance was good both for this country and for the EU. This is part of the context in which the EU, so desperate to avoid blame for its own sloth and maladministration, now threatens to break contracts and deprive Britain of vaccines coming out of Halix and other continental suppliers.

Almost everyone here agrees that the EU’s behaviour is disgraceful, and that Britain is within its rights. Even inside the EU, public opinion is dismayed. How best, though, to react?

I would tentatively suggest that this country is in a position to be super-nice. We are way ahead of Europe, and we already have enough AstraZeneca vaccine to administer the second doses we need. In the slightly longer term, everything seems to be on track for our plentiful supply of Novovax (60 million doses) and Valdema. So long as Europe sticks by its promise to deliver the second doses of Pfizer-BioNTech our vulnerable need, we should consider helping.

Obviously, it is our absolute duty to vaccinate all vulnerable British residents first; but if that duty is discharged, is it essential that we rush forward at the same pace to vaccinate everyone else? We already have enough to cover “priority groupings” 1 to 9. The drive to get every 25-year-old vaccinated by the summer is good propaganda but will have little impact on death and infection rates if our vulnerable are already safe.

There is a moral case for helping the EU. Britain has the capacity to help rescue millions of elderly on the Continent and thus prevent thousands of deaths by offering some of its own vaccines.

There is an economic case, too. Even when we become well protected here – a day which is not far off – we shall not be able to recover economic normality if our neighbours continue to be locked down. We could free Europe from that curse. If it can be done, it will be the best lead we have given to Europe since 1945.

You’ve read that wrong.

This article from a few days ago is a decent summary of the problems with vaccination in the EU. The problems are overstated in my view. The headline is a bit sensational but the content here is fair.

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These was great fanfare in here after Christmas when Sweden stopped listening to @Enrique and hinted at a move towards tougher restrictions. Going by the Oxford stringency index and conversations with my pal over there this doesn’t seem to have amounted to much tangible action. Contact sport was restricted for a while and numbers allowed in restaurants were decreased but don’t think there was much else.

Patience & a bit of personal responsibility will see us home in 2022

By Telegraph standards that would be seen as v complimentary towards the EU.

The Irish on the whole don’t understand personal responsibility sadly

This reality drives the lidtf mentallers demented. A control on their madness to destroy everyones life so they can sit at home peering out the little gap in their curtains

Some people just love being locked down. This is their time to shine. They don’t want to give that up easily

John Weldon had it right in 1918, a race of people who seem intent on doing as much damage as they can on one another.

24 deaths. 371 cases.

Although it’s all academic at this stage pending vaccination roll out.

How can you say the problems are overstated? Procurement has been a shit show.

That’s much less than the positive swabs. The Wednesday number is typically higher so they are teeing up a 1000er for tomorrow to get us under the bed til April 5th.

Boris the Merciful

That’s gonna stick in a few fellas craws

The lads that wanted him dead this time last year.

Boris is the greatest leader of the free world