Coronavirus - Here come the variants

Itā€™s not my job to make other peopleā€™s arguments for them. Mike made the claim but could not back it up.

I was right to question him. I know your issue, you have a big problem with my probing and challenging because youā€™re a spoofer and your hostile tone is noted. I think you try very hard to be a bully on here but you donā€™t have the presence to carry it out.

Why? There are three very similar countries all alongside each other. It makes far more sense to compare them to each other, rather than Hungary or Portugal or Poland.

Why do you find it strange? Comparing like with like is the obvious thing to do when looking to make comparisons.

Itā€™s your job to support your points with relevant information where appropriate. Iā€™m encouraging you to be a better and more effective poster.

You compared Ireland to New Zealand.

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Flannerys in Limerick retweeted this last week:

The same cunts would have you out on your ear if you tried dancing on a stool.

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Belgium, Greece, Czechia, Sweden, Portugal and Hungary all have very similar populations (between 11.6 and 9.6 million according to wikipedia). They are the only European countries in that population range (unless you count Azerbaijan).

Belgium had 22k deaths, Greece 7k, Czechia had 24k, Sweden had 13k, Portugal had 16k and Hungary had 18k. Sweden at no point had a lockdown.

I questioned his point.

Itā€™s up to him to substantiate what he is saying.

Or would turn you away at the door as part of their eanny meany minny mo policy

I compared their initial response to dealing with Covid last summer. I never compared their relative cases/fatalities.

My point was that Sweden had far more fatalities than Ireland. While I was wrong about the multiples I did qualify it by saying Irelndā€™s figures werenā€™t good.

This lad would suggest itā€™s much less

And this lad isnā€™t too perturbed about sweden. Iā€™ll give you the final word

A helping hand for the mathematically illiterate.

Sweden has a population of 10.14 million, 20% are over 65 so thatā€™s ~2.0 million in this most at risk group. Ireland has a population of 4.98 million, 14% are over 65, so 700k at most risk. A multiple of X2.9, so Sweden had ~ 3 times the population of people most at risk, the people restrictions are meant to protect.

80% of Covid deaths worldwide are in the over 65 group (95% over 50). 80% of Swedenā€™s Covid deaths is 10,652, and 80% of Irelandā€™s Covid deaths is 3,670, a ratio of ?

How successful was Ireland (and most other places) at protecting their vulnerable compared to Sweden?

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I thought this has been debated on here ad nauseum and established as fact. The statistics illustrate that when you age adjust respective populations (Ireland having one of the youngest in EU) there is no discernable difference if you are a 65 year old in Sweden or Ireland and your chances of dying from/ ā€œwithā€ Covid.

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Correct, but you still have lads who argue how badly Sweden have done compared to Norway and Finland, but refuse to compare any other European countries to them.

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Accepting that we have 700k over 65, and looking at the vaccine figures being quoted (albeit including healthcare workers) we should have our most vulnerable vaccinated in jig-time.

And yet it ainā€™t so. Curioser and curioser.

The gymnastics being delivered to avoid like with like comparison is very entertaining. Ye should get @Enrique to cc ye on his email to the Swedish government telling them that their approach has been, contrary to their own belief, a resounding success. Attach this new back of a fag box calc. I think thatā€™s 3 pieces of irrefutable evidence the TFK experts have now delivered. :smiley: :smiley:

Iā€™m expecting a fair jump again in cases today.

2 local Primary Schools have had outbreaks and sent classes home.

Kids are obviously showing symptoms which would be a worry.

Seems to be in a state of plateau