Coronavirus - Here come the variants

[glasagusban]

@balbec

Max allowed in a household five people. (problem for me)

Which of them are you going to fuck out on the road?

[Heyyoubehindthebushes]

I see a massive difference in speaking with people who are out and about working etc as opposed being stuck at home. Anyone not wfh but are supportive of the nphet approach are realising the holes in the level 5. I personally haven’t heard of someone even going for a test outside of travel requirements since start of February. Is that an indicator I don’t know but peopel are itching for normality of some kind.

People wfh and only heading to shop believe we won’t see outside our 5km till 2022. Its strange as people are turning on each other over small things that have been discussed at nauseum on here like travel bans, shebeens and people chatting in parks instead of asking why are we so far behind on vaccines, why have we no targets for re opening. Its a complex issue that politicians don’t have the skills or ability to challenge as they got a shock from our meaningful Christmas

[Ambrose_McNulty]

You’ll be fucked out to the swan house.

[mikehunt]

@the_man_himself

The only thing the other parties want to do differently is that some of them want Zero Covid which is even worse

Sigh, you’re missing my point.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

@glasagusban

Terry Prone: Nphet's problem? Too much communication is happening

Dr Ronan Glynn is getting thumped for asking us to do a little more, and ends up being apologetic in the face of trolling for what’s described as a communication error. It’s actually the inevitable outcome of a much bigger communications error: The unexamined daily briefings, added to by public appearances by the Taoiseach and Tánaiste, plus the health minister, HSE, et al. For the first time in history, too much communication is happening. It has always been assumed that you couldn’t overcommunicate with people. Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Here’s how what has happened has inadvertently broken the laws of good communication. First, a daily appointment in Sammara was created in the nightly Nphet briefings, which forced the two national broadcasters into obedient presence and promulgation. For several months, that was riveting and highly educational. But over time, the story became repetitive, the lack of pictures forced the nation into gazing at Covid yellow notice boards, and the Nphet guys became more famous than the famous themselves.

At that point, the political syndrome came into play. Nphet began to be seen as the real government, and a cohort within the public started to hate them accordingly, demanding that the Cabinet “stand up” to them.

At the same time, the Government, to prove they really are the Government, and also in the hope of retrieving and repeating Leo’s moment on St Patrick’s day last year, started competing with each other and Nphet for coverage.

Meanwhile, instead of saying “Here’s the data, Government will tell you what they’re going to do with it”, Nphet moved from pure information-delivery (which is safe) into motivational be-good-now health promotion, (demonstrably unsafe for Nphet) which led to the Glynn thumping and his baffled comment that all of us have only one enemy: The virus.

People citing Churchill’s constant communication with the public during the Second World War tend to ignore what happened immediately after peace broke out. The British public turfed him in an election.

we are always citing this over dinner in fairness- who isnt

[glasagusban]

@Heyyoubehindthebushes

People wfh and only heading to shop believe we won’t see outside our 5km till 2022.

A few of my best mates are like this. They’re genuinely afraid of getting their hopes up again.

[glenshane]

@glasagusban

People citing Churchill’s constant communication with the public during the Second World War tend to ignore what happened immediately after peace broke out. The British public turfed him in an election.

Right enough. Glynn needs to stage manage this carefully. Sure the virus could go away and his electorate could turn on him…or something?

[Lazarus]

[myboyblue]

I can’t believe anyone would read an article by Prone. Shame on you all. An infraction for whoever posted it.

[Julio_Geordio]

@myboyblue

I can’t believe anyone would read an article by Prone. Shame on you all. An infraction for whoever posted it

The pandemic is making for strange out from under the bedfellows

[balbec]

Two of them. They will have company in the gate house with Sergeii and Yuri.

[balbec]

I wish.

[TheUlteriorMotive]

The next week is critical.

[Ralphie]

Q2 will be crucial

[jellyfish]

Any changes to the current restrictions will be leaked over the weekend and Monday so there’s little to announce once it’s agreed by Cabinet on Tuesday and will already be old news by the time it makes it to the newspapers.

This is what they’ve done all along and I don’t see it changing now.

[johnnysachs]

683/18

[TheUlteriorMotive]

They test everybody who goes into hospital for Covid whether they are sick with Covid or not. False positive rate on Covid tests suggests that there is very little or no symptomatic cases of Covid in hospital as numbers of people in hospital “with”
Covid are stable last few weeks.

[johnnysachs]

Yes we are back up to testing nearly 20,000 a day now. If we can inject as well as we can swab we’ll be out the gap and you would imagine the swabbing process is more time consuming that injecting. There seems to be efforts now to ramp up testing. This is grand but I hope the fixation on case numbers dissipates as more and more are vaccinated. As you said it needs to be taken in the context of hospitalisations and morbidity.

[balbec]

Big outbreak in a primary school in North Tipp. Six teachers positive.

[glenshane]

No fucking about.

Tracey O'Mahony (TraceyOMahony81)