Coronavirus - Here come the variants

You can make an appeal on arrival, I donā€™t know the criteria but the line to people that want to travel for something like a funeral, is that they canā€™t make the appeal until the arrive. There is no guidance on what way that decision will go. Which is ridiculous and callous. Can you imagine having to come home for a funeral say. What Ireland is currently telling people is that they have to book and pay for the MHQ in advance before they can travel, and they can then make an appeal on arrival, ā€œwe might let you go to the funeral, we might lock you up for two weeks while the funeral is on, you wonā€™t know until you get hereā€. Itā€™s sick.

Also, decisions on appeals are currently being made quickly. Wait til we get to big numbers and there massive delay in decision making.

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There were a couple of more pieces on it that came out.

But yeah it was probably a sop by NPHET, they knew by keeping it that the question of no end game for this would be asked louder as more strategic countries were added.

Unreal ā€¦I canā€™t see this lasting long ā€¦surely huge pressure will come as soon as all these flaws become evident ?

There is guidance on essential travel.

Iā€™m not sure how it could stand up anywhere that you could potentially limit those people coming back via flight quotas. Donnelly and Martin casually saying they arenā€™t ruling out flight quotas should have been front page news this week, itā€™s appalling.

What you can take from that is that NPHET again are acting like pricks, leaking when it suits, and that Donnelly is a prized prick.

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I donā€™t know how it has gotten this far. No one has shouted stop. The attitude of most people in Ireland is ā€œthatā€™s the rules, fuck themā€. People arenā€™t angry about this, they seem to be generally supportive. Meanwhile for a weak and unpopular government they can try present this as an example of them making hard decisions and taking tough actions, and people are buying it. There is nothing to force them to turn back. The only hope is the courts.

This whole thing has really made me lose a lot of faith in Ireland as country. This not how a developed and sensible democracy acts. We are an international fool.

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Hereā€™s another wanker

The aviation regulator had to publically ask for a plan this week for the industry. There isnā€™t one and Ryan has barely moved his lips on it. He did have time to go to off on one of his hobby horses on climate change and aviation though, and tell everyone how aviation would be greatly reduced going forward. How can someone with that ideological position be put into overseeing an industry on its knees right now?

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Sums it up

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I wish you could see the shambles this thing is up close. The contradictions in how it is operated are laughable.

One example: passengers coming from Dubai to Ireland are essentially treated like they are radioactive. A cleaner literally follows them and cleans any bathroom they use, any surface they touch. If they are wheelchair-bound, the person pushing the wheelchair is kitted out like a Chernobyl liquidator.

If however, you fly from Dubai to Dublin to transit onwards, you can proceed up to departures and touch all the surfaces you want while you get dinner and a few pints in Marquette.

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FFS :rofl:

Christ :joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy:

Fucking hell :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes::grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes::grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

Can someone thatā€™s on twitter please tweet that or send it to a journalist that will?

Egghead is taking a populist stand and has shown more leadership in the past few weeks than Mehole has all pandemic. Is it completely impossible for Egghead to ever become Taoiseach?

In a Machiavelian way Iā€™m not too anti-MHQ because in a few months time transmissions will still be high and to sensible people the zero-covid idea will have been discredited. The problem is that there are no sensible people left and rather than give up on it, the way forward will be forever more restrictions and even more zero-covid by stealth.

Dublin Castle. two lads with sticks, 800 years.

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In about a week :joy::joy:

Donā€™t forget that in all of this many of the opposition parties called for mandatory quarantine for all arrivals into the country.

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A whistleblower to call out this sham is needed.

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Hard cases make bad law ā€¦itā€™s a bit rich a country that has a history of looking to other countries to cater for its unemployed and also proactively attracts FDI now wonā€™t let anyone escape two week hotel quarantine ā€¦

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