Coronavirus - Here for life (In high population density areas)

[ciarancareyshurlingarmy]

She is a bright lady, could you ask her to deliver her insight first-hand here on TFK?

[Malarkey]

@georgeorwell

You have about as much use as an inflamed appendix and the brains of one too.

I still have my appendix, as it happens.

Pity your brain was removed at birth by genetics.

[Malarkey]

@Tim_Riggins

@Malarkey

Could anyone actually make up stupidity to this level…?

Enough straw men to hold Guy Fawkes Day every day for a year…

Imagine being so happy to be a Koch brothers shill. Another Daniel Hannan.

Next thing, this lad will be telling us there is no such thing as climate change.

Elaborate. Just saying “your stupid” followed by irrelevant names is not making a point.

Fair enough.

You are stupid.

You’re stupid.

[Tim_Riggins]

@Bandage

She was doing some back of a cookery book calculations earlier and her assumptions were that most people would have stopped mixing from 26 December at the latest. Restrictions tightened again from that date with bars/restaurants having closed just before Christmas, (pre) Christmas Day visits done, travel outside county banned so no new year’s jaunts etc etc. So the big surge we saw either side of the new year was likely to be due to contacts up to Christmas Day. Anyone that got it after Christmas Day would likely only give it to (some) immediate family and it wouldn’t be passed onto the wider community.

In essence, the spread up to and including Christmas Day was likely to be substantial but the R number should be manageable again. So while hospitalisations are likely to grow for a while due to the lag in people getting sick, we might have reached peak infections/cases already.

People were still going to gyms and stuff. Probably less direct contacts but plenty of opportunity for it to be spreading to a few people outside of your immediate family up until the middle of last week.

[carryharry]

@Tim_Riggins

Do lockdowns work? If they are very early they halt transmission, like the Czech Republic in March. But did it stop another wave? Nope. Do they work in scenarios where cases are already out of control? Nope.

Really?

[EstebanSexface]

incidence goes up - lockdown - incidence goes down - open up - incidence goes up - lockdown - incidence goes down

Depending on what your objective is (high/low incidence) only one construct doesn’t work. You seem to accept high incidence and all that goes with it

I accept opening up as it had to be done. You couldn’t stay locked down forever as it is impossible.

[Malarkey]

@glenshane

@Malarkey

They sold their collective soul to nonsense a long time ag

Who exactly decided you have the high moral ground? Who said this had to be a binary choice? I wont burden you with the guilt of suicides, cancer deaths, child abuse etc. I won’t play that game.
Anger at public servants sitting on full pay? Maybe people who have built businesses up from absolutely nothing, pay taxes to pay public servants and employ people deserve more in the way of consideration than for lads to decide the worth of their soul.

No, I am not going to fight with you. You know why.

[farmerinthecity]

@Tim_Riggins

As some of the same lunatics and incompetents from public health backgrounds who have ran the show since last March

What would you have done differently since last March? Honest question.

[Tassotti]

om a scale of 1 to 10, how worried are you?

[georgeorwell]

Maybe if posting repetitive drivel on the Internet doesn’t work out you can write a screen play for a seedy period drama.

[carryharry]

Right now, zero.

Tomorrow, 5.

[Malarkey]

@carryharry

@Tim_Riggins

Do lockdowns work? If they are very early they halt transmission, like the Czech Republic in March. But did it stop another wave? Nope. Do they work in scenarios where cases are already out of control? Nope.

Really?

Where would you go with this lad…?

He thinks we should sit into a packed train in Heuston Station tomorrow evening, head down to Kilkenny, yuk it up down the length of John Street all night long wearing Abba t shirts, and head back up the following morning on another packed train.

What lockdown needed? Done with Covid!

[mickee321]

no idea who he is but I do respect facts

[Malarkey]

@georgeorwell

Maybe if posting repetitive drivel on the Internet doesn’t work out you can write a screen play for a seedy period drama.

Bang.

You are a one note sketch.

[Tim_Riggins]

@carryharry

Really?

Yes really.

Lockdown in March early in their cycles successfully prevented the likes of Poland getting badly hit, as @balbec will attest. Similarly in the Czech Republic. Late Spring and Summer resulted in low cases, as everywhere else. Both got very confident and were blitzed in the Autumn.

Will Lockdown work for Ireland now? Very unlikely. The fear of this wave will result in people staying home voluntarily.

We will end up with having 3 lockdowns but pretty similar death stats to most of our peers.

If you want to use Lockdowns to get you to the point of near elimination (as happened in Ireland in June), and then elimination, then maybe. Basically New Zealand. I don’t think that’s possible here or sustainable though, as I mentioned.

[EstebanSexface]

@Tim_Riggins

We will end up with having 3 lockdowns but pretty similar death stats to most of our peers.

would those deaths have been higher or lower without lockdowns? which of our peers didn’t have 3 lockdowns?

@Tim_Riggins

Will Lockdown work for Ireland now? Very unlikely. The fear of this wave will result in people staying home voluntarily.

are you for fucking real

[Tim_Riggins]

@Malarkey

Where would you go with this lad…?

He thinks we should sit into a packed train in Heuston Station tomorrow evening, head down to Kilkenny, yuk it up down the length of John Street all night long wearing Abba t shirts, and head back up the following morning on another packed train.

What lockdown needed? Done with Covid!

I mentioned here previously that we avoided social occasions in the two weeks leading up to Christmas in order not to catch it. We were hoping to maybe do a few things after Christmas but the numbers went the way they did, that’s life, as soon as the cases rose a lot towards Christmas Day we ruled out going out or going to the gym. I don’t want to catch it and I am not done with Covid. I’m sorry if that doesn’t fit neatly into your Guardian vs. The Daily Telegraph view of the world, which seems to inform where you side on anything.

[Malarkey]

@Tim_Riggins

@Malarkey

Where would you go with this lad…?

He thinks we should sit into a packed train in Heuston Station tomorrow evening, head down to Kilkenny, yuk it up down the length of John Street all night long wearing Abba t shirts, and head back up the following morning on another packed train.

What lockdown needed? Done with Covid!

I mentioned here previously that we avoided social occasions in the two weeks leading up to Christmas in order not to catch it. We were hoping to maybe do a few things after Christmas but the numbers went the way they did, that’s life, as soon as the cases rose a lot towards Christmas Day we ruled out going out or going to the gym. I don’t want to catch it and I am not done with Covid. I’m sorry if that doesn’t fit neatly into your Guardian vs. The Daily Telegraph view of the world, which seems to inform where you side on anything.

I read both, in fact, pretty much every day.

The Guardian is far better.

[Malarkey]

@EstebanSexface

@Tim_Riggins

We will end up with having 3 lockdowns but pretty similar death stats to most of our peers.

would those deaths have been higher or lower without lockdowns? which of our peers didn’t have 3 lockdowns?

@Tim_Riggins

Will Lockdown work for Ireland now? Very unlikely. The fear of this wave will result in people staying home voluntarily.

are you for fucking real

The bedrock nonsense is hoving into view now.

[EstebanSexface]

so you can stay in and not catch it, in comfort

but the people who have to go out - you want them to go out in to a place where the virus is rampant in the community