Yes.
The stats have borne this out, time after time.
R dropped below 1 in March, pre lockdown. In both the UK and Ireland.
The overserving of the fear card and overuse of restrictions/lockdowns resulted in people being complacent over Christmas. The Fear is very much back though. People would do very little during January. This lockdown will have more compliance than the November one.
Well said.
Twang!
Those risk-averse experts may have overestimated fatalities and Iām sure theyāre delighted to be wrong. On the other hand we could have listened to the likes of Sunetra Gupta and Anders Tegnell who advocated a herd immunty approach and massively underestimated immunity levels. If the world had gone with the latterās advice then hundreds of thousands more would be dead. If youāre ok with that then I pity you.
thatās not even the kicker.
The people who have to go out and come home to a vulnerable person.
But thatās grand. Tim cancelled a few social gatherings.
Where did I say I want them to go out?
Seeing as you are such a lockdown fanatic, would you not be in favour of shutting down all of the grocery stores? Stopping all deliveries? You want to play that game?
Like shop assistants?
Iām not a lockdown fanatic. I hate them. Iām just not anti-lockdown. I think they have been necessary. Thereās a difference.
I donāt have an ideology other than observing what Iāve seen with my own two eyes.
They have to go out. You want them to have to go out where the virus is rampant
Heās an awful simpleton. Almost everything he says ends up working out the opposite way. And then there was the shite he was spouting about window boxes.
yes like shop assistants. Vital work
Iād like to help them by only going out when I need to get vitals in the shop.
You want them going out where community spread is constant
He has a chat show on Classic hits FM who @Malarkey brings up ad nauseum. After that I could not tell you anything about him. He seems controversial. But if its facts you want from the poster who brings him up you might as well forget about it. A one trick pony who probably believes the virus is a result of bad karma. āMaybe if we generate enough good karma it might disappear said the scarecrow to the cowardly lionā.
I know, I knowā¦
The sheer Kango stupidity and blitheness of it all nigh defies belief. But they keep spewing out this stuff, day after day, as if the whole process was just a game.
Like the AIER, they hate anything to do with state-directed actions. I suppose this conviction, end of day, is the nostrum. Everything else, including this virus, is irrelevant.
Pandemics prove how wrong Robert Nozick was.
You seem to think I have an ideology.
I think they are fairly pointless at the level we are at.
I think OTT restrictions rather than investing in good surveillance when cases are lower is bad practice and not sustainable.
Another 70 posts in jig timeā¦ The virus has nothing on the numbers on this thread.
Not everyone who questions some of the current measures/numbers is an OIUTF nutter.
I think itās very reasonable to question as long as youāre not inciting law breakers. A lot of whatās going on makes no sense including the arbitrariness of the restrictions. Youād have to be a right gom to just accept everything thrown at you by the press and the government.
At the same time, some lads just want to go to the pub and donāt give a fuck about anything elseā¦ Thatās the mind of a serial killer.
We need a pinch of scepticism and a good sprinkle of zen. But most of all we need alcohol sales of all kind banned for a month.
You will be quoting what I said in 15 yearsā time.
Now, there is karma.
Very restrictive lockdowns have proven to be a failure. We needed to open up last summer. We have received a seismic hit with regards to cases due to the timing of our measures.
Depends on their age, health and who they live with. For most of them it wont be an issue. The rest could lockdown or take other prevautions
Vital work where you think that they must be āon the frontlineā for repeated waves and repeated lockdowns.
A point of the Great Barrington Declaration was that this was immoral, that you were exposing them to a greater deal of risk for longer and was not sustainable for social cohesion. This is something I agree with, again even if I didnāt think parts of the proposal were practical.
You see the game of āI care moreā is a dicey one. Why should someone working in a food store be subject to this repeated risk whilst someone who works in ānon essentialā retail be paid to sit at home? Why should a vulnerable person living with a shop assistant be subject to that prolonged risk vs. a vulnerable person living with someone working in non essential retail?
By signalling there was going to be a lockdown in January it ensured people would adjust contacts and activity over Christmas accordingly. I.e. ramp up. If they said nothing people might have staggered their levels of activity and reduced contacts. It was a stupid thing to do.
ah the false dichotomy
you think having some respite is worse than having none.
Fucking hell.
If the virus is constantly rampant in the community where is the respite ?
Iāve bookmarked the post to get around to replying to it at a later date. I will be elsewhere occupied this evening and for the foreseeable future. I hope to complete the draw for the 2020 COTY tonight. Just going out to the shop now to buy Approx 200 kinder eggs.