And what is the alternative? The Great Barrington Declaration?
Here we must just disagree.
If they cancelled the gaa season and kept the pubs closed weâd be in level 2 country wide right now.
I am still waiting for that answer.
Do you think the gaa season should have gone ahead?
They need to ban sale of alcohol. A good 3 months ought to do it.
Must say that Iâm very surprised at how bad it has got in Ireland. I thought the population had exercised a lot of cop on all year.
Tbf, it was a perfect storm. Winter, Christmas, pent up desire for social interaction. Understandable.
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Except they did in March, as Phillip Nolan said and all SAGE modelling in the UK showed.
They didnât in November. Close contacts increased and R began to rise again. What drove R down again in October was Holohanâs Fear index. People were afraid once they saw cases go over 200.
They were not afraid in December, despite us starting off at 300. Moreover, they were exhausted by restrictions. Indeed, many werenât afraid of 1,000 cases.
The problem with the continued use of lockdowns is the diminishing returns, that can also leave you open to an Ireland style pounding.
People are afraid of 5k cases though, so will react accordingly. Will the lockdown have an impact? I doubt it personally, but we wonât know. Most support it though and if it stops some panic until the vaccine rolls out, thatâs fine.
On balance, yes. The same answer about other sports.
Aside from some well remarked (and lamentable) cases around celebration, the GAA season did not lead to dramatic levels of infection. The playing of the games certainly did not. My own club won three in a row, celebrated carefully but did celebrate (outdoors, in a marquee), and no cases arose from the homecoming.
There appears to have been almost no cases associated with supermarket staff â as in, getting the virus at work. So precautions do work.
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I canât pay my mortgage now so that makes me a Koch brothers shill and a Trump supporter. Absolutely fucking pathetic. Imagine that there might be people in the world inndifferent circumstances to Malarkey who might still be decent folk, the mind boggles You utter psychopath.
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The only thing I can see happening is whatever is left of your brain has evaporated.
There is no statistical difference between when the UK locked down and other western European countries locked down. Lockdowns were imposed in a gradual fashion (events first, schools second, non essential business third, stay at home last) across Europe from mid March to the end of March. The timing made absolutely no difference to the death rate in the first wave, as the spread was already well underway in January/February.
To then link lockdown timing differences in March 2020 to what we are seeing now in January 2021, 10 months later, is so batshit crazy I actually canât comment on it.
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Its almost as if lockdowns dont work
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The phrase the health service âbeing completely overwhelmedâ is being thrown about. But what does that mean. My sense is the health service was completely overwhelmed last March, April and May (if not longer) when most cancer operations and treatments were cancelled or postponed. Most elective surgery was cancelled or postponed. Most if not all screening and testing was postponed.
We need to be more interrogative about these phrases that are thrown out in press releases. What does it mean and how is it different to previous times including pre Covid
@BruidheanChaorthainn I stand by you 100%. You know what youâve been going through, dont let yourself be bullied. Aul lads in this country talking about people in the Vietnam War and they spent their entire youths drink-driving weekly and going to mass.
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Reasonable restrictions.
What are they?
Like we had when we came out of the first lockdown.
Itâs not a failure of ordinary people, and if it is what do you propose? A dictatorship? So the lockdown sends a messageâŚwell if itâs a form of behavioral conditioning so be it, but dont pretend its about protecting anyone. The virus will do what it will do, we can take measures to protect ourselves without this madness.
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A broad brush firing up flowery language - words like wallpaper. Sap behind both.
The 18s to 25s have suffered the most and have been completely forgotten about. I hope this covid business is over soon.
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