The big risk is not necessarily the vaccine passport. The big risk is that people are sufficiently scared and conditioned now to allow a perpetual planning āfor the next pandemicā by public health doctors who are interested in no other metrics.
The HSE are in charge of hospitals and Covid is in hospitals. Theyāve moved goalposts to now try and continue lockdown to protect a health system from non Covid related issues that they mismanage - linking lockdown to waiting lists is crazy. Itās also crazy that we face stricter measures than last year when no vaccine or way out existed.
Micheal Martin has been a disaster since he took power. Heās weak and Iād hope FG pull plug on the government if they plan to move lockdown out when hospitalisations are not at a level to remotely justify it.
people bent down and accepted LDs , in fact the sense of stockholm syndrome was so bad here in december people actually wanted more restrictions
with a background like that why wont people request and approve of a vaccine passport, shur arent we āsaving livesā?
This is a stupid attitude to how society should run.
Leave aside that we know a great many will be adhering to the restrictions to the letter and will be left behind from a growing āProhibition attitudeā, policy logic and outcomes are important.
If people are increasingly meeting other householders in various contexts, you are losing any public health dimension to it. Whilst you ban stuff, people will lie about what theyāre doing. Furthermore, if they can meet in a park then why canāt outdoor markets go ahead?
The further and further we push out reopening dates, the more likely it is that some people will stop paying attention period. And the activities will be driven further and further underground. Saying to people to stay at home until Easter is cracked, mimicking a āwell sure they can get the boat to Englandā type attitude is worse.
So you think the associated legislation will be definitive, time limited and related to this virus or this vaccine? If this goes through governments will have signed their citizens up to something which is effectively compulsory but with implications which arent understood
I find it really interesting that we all thought weād never fall for the tricks of the past and people sneered at control the Church had and wondered how ordinary people allowed facism/communism to take hold.
Once you pump out a message on media and create fear you can make people do pretty much anything. Iād accept it as maybe reasonable until vaccine was developed.
Continuing it since then and actually ramping it up is worrying.
Maybe when the Covid Tax is on peopleās payslips alongside USC people will think with their pocket.
Lovely addition of scapegoating sections of society, like holiday makers or students lately too. A lovely tag line of āin this togetherā whilst the exact opposite is happening. The advent of lockdowns is a terrifying development in the western world
In a group with a few more like minded men in there mid 20s. They are obviously sick of it but not even bothered to discuss it or protest about it. It seems to be too much bother for all of them.
Itās a sad sign of the modern youth and people in general.
Weāve a weird set of priorities alright. Virtue signalling liberal views while handing liberty over to unelected tech magnates, scientists organisations and forums.
Traditionally students would have led protests against authoritarian governments, but their collective focus has been steered towards trans issues, the crimes of bygone centuries and battles that have already been won. Besides theyāre all stuck at homeā¦the government will introduce passports before the universities reopen, just in case.
Outdoor markets can go ahead, Iāve been to a few recently.
I have no problem with people meeting others outdoors. The option is intolerable, but I feel Iām sensible about it. Most people are similar I feel.