Coronavirus - Here for life (In high population density areas)

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

@Julio_Geordio

@Lazarus

You are saying the hospitals are making it all up?
Maybe you are right, maybe they need to get a hold of themselves

My understanding is that hospitals are indeed at breaking point, not because of covid directly, there are less people on trolleys than usual (and while elective procedures have been cancelled they always are around this time of the year). They are under pressure the same as they always are in a system lacking the capacity to cope.
But what’s killing them is staff being close contacts and having to isolate. They are seriously short handed. They closed a ward in UHL the other day because they didn’t have the staff to man it.
Think about that for a second, complaining about capacity and closing a ward. Meanwhile there are supposedly thousands of qualified people who answered the HSE call out, retired nurses, nurses who’d packed it in, people who came home etc etc. But there’s so much red tape around getting them back in the system it’s basically impossible to hire them, those that have got through the process are being told they’ll be hired through third party companies on shite contracts with no job security or guaranteed hours.
Meanwhile we’ve written another blank cheque to the private hospitals.

By companies handed million euro contracts with family links to FG.

[glasagusban]

@Heyyoubehindthebushes

Many will die but we won’t have to wait for vaccine. OIUTF

In fairness, would you ever cop on and calm down.

Are you genuinely happy for many to die because you can’t hack a couple more months of restrictions? What does that say about you?

[Heyyoubehindthebushes]

We have no choice fear fear fear

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

If you hung yourself with Covid. Are you a Covid death?

[glasagusban]

What are you raving about?

[Heyyoubehindthebushes]

OIUTF cornavirus pints. Did I tell you its a cod.

Did I tell you I was piss taking, my original statement was ludicrous

[backinatracksuit]

You’re right, I didn’t fully think through what I was saying, it’s the made up hearsay stats that I object to, if there was a frightening rise in suicide for the past 9 months then I believe it’s relevant. I don’t believe that to have been the case

[carryharry]

@glenshane

Why are healthy staff being isolated etc.

[glenshane]

@backinatracksuit

You’re righ

Steady on now!

I’d take a punt and say the work related and school bullying suicides have abated while the lockdown suicides have taken up the slack.

Clare craig on Twitter was using uk office of national statistics to show the spike in overdose and alcohol related ambulance call outs. They either spiked or skyrocketed, I dont have the exact figures to hand.

[glenshane]

Because they test positive, repeatedly in some cases

[carryharry]

It’s my belief that Hospital staff aren’t exclusively using PCR tests though…

[carryharry]

Keep your Tan News to the proper thread.

[glenshane]

Paddy is traipsing along after john in these matters

[carryharry]

You are in awe of your betters

[backinatracksuit]

My guess (just a guess) is that people are drinking more than before, locked in at home, domestic violence etc etc
This for me is one of the real tragedies but I have I evidence

I think suicide is a very complex issue, something I’ve had (as most people will) indirect experience with in my extended family and friends, I don’t think it’s helpful to use as a tool for any side in the Covid debate, if that sounds sanctimonious I’m sorry

[glenshane]

@carryharry

You are in awe of your betters

Sure anyone would be in awe of my betters

[glenshane]

@backinatracksuit

that sounds sanctimonious I’m sorry

No, you sounded sanctimonious when you used an anecdote to criticise others for not using data

[backinatracksuit]

I didn’t use any anecdotes this morning, did I?

[glenshane]

Ok. Vague dataless allusion to set out your rules on your data requirements

[backinatracksuit]

It was something I read in a newspaper, seemed reliable,
I get your point, when I asked the question I was wondering whether the original poster had anything similar or was it purely hearsay, just googling quickly now it appears that there’s plenty of material online for anybody to educate themselves on this