Coronavirus - Here for life (In high population density areas)

[glenshane]

That’s only the start. Antibody testing is cheaper than pcr testing…it would allow people back to work and help understand spread…why not? The idea that cavan and donegal were so bad is strange…it was probably due to bad testing or bad hospital treatment…

[mickee321]

not at all…but its not exactly a story we didn’t hear last year or the year before

[Enrique]

It’s a cod. A cod of such epic proportions that the people that have gone along with this joke have to find ever more ridiculous justifications to continue this charade. People like @tonyholohan @mcdonkey @mikehunt @Malarkey @padjo make me sick.

[myboyblue]

@briantinnion

The news reports on special schools would break your heart.

Terrible 2s or not, wankers like me shouldn’t be moaning about our toddlers.

Gods make their own importance.

But my heart goes out to any family unit in that situation.

[myboyblue]

@The_Most_Infamous

People are dying mate - suicide and overdoses are through the roof

Link?

[Julio_Geordio]

@Lazarus

You are saying the hospitals are making it all up?
Maybe you are right, maybe they need to get a hold of themselves

My understanding is that hospitals are indeed at breaking point, not because of covid directly, there are less people on trolleys than usual (and while elective procedures have been cancelled they always are around this time of the year). They are under pressure the same as they always are in a system lacking the capacity to cope.
But what’s killing them is staff being close contacts and having to isolate. They are seriously short handed. They closed a ward in UHL the other day because they didn’t have the staff to man it.
Think about that for a second, complaining about capacity and closing a ward. Meanwhile there are supposedly thousands of qualified people who answered the HSE call out, retired nurses, nurses who’d packed it in, people who came home etc etc. But there’s so much red tape around getting them back in the system it’s basically impossible to hire them, those that have got through the process are being told they’ll be hired through third party companies on shite contracts with no job security or guaranteed hours.
Meanwhile we’ve written another blank cheque to the private hospitals.

[backinatracksuit]

@The_Most_Infamous

People are dying mate - suicide and overdoses are through the roof.

They don’t count though in this new normal.

This wasn’t true up until the middle of December, a myth of sorts, I don’t want to get into a row but the stats don’t back it up, have you something solid on it?

[Julio_Geordio]

There haven’t been any stats released on suicide last year yet have there? The CSO only release them at year end for some reason

[backinatracksuit]

There have been a number of studies done on this in countries that have locked down, I was looking at it a while back, to date there doesn’t seem to have been a significant increase in suicide anywhere,
I don’t wish to make light of the mental health problems caused by this but I don’t like suicide ‘stats’ being used in this way

[TreatyStones]

This fella, who seems vaguely familiar, has been putting up the odd tweet on his experience since catching covid, sounds like he’s getting pretty rough and apparently a fit man. They say if you start to deteriorate after Day 10 you are in trouble.

Padraic Kierans (thepadraick)

[Raylan]

Owns a few horses with Tom Gibney and John McConnell

[Batigol]

Agreed. There doesn’t appear to have been a huge bump in suicide.

There is a hell of a lot more to mental health issues than just suicide stats though. A lot of people that I know have said there are feeling down/bored/ sick of it etc. Lockdowns are ruining a lot of people’s quality of life

[Copper_pipe]

@Copper_pipe

Number of confirmed cases in hospital up to 1151 from 1022

Number of confirmed cases in hospital up to 1285 from 1151

[cluaindiuic]

I’ve seen the total unofficial suicide stats from 2020.

I can confirm, based on the same comparison of 2019 data, that there has been less suicides in 2020 than 2019.

[glenshane]

@backinatracksuit

but the stats don’t back it up, have you something solid on it?

@backinatracksuit

I was looking at it a while back, to date there doesn’t seem to have been a significant increase in suicide anywhere,
I don’t wish to make light of the mental health problems caused by this but I don’t like suicide ‘stats’ being used in this way

Ffs tracksuit. You’re insisting on stats to “back it up” because you dont like to see stats used in this way, while making some vague reference to a supposed report you supposedly read to make your argument.
Sanctimony, hypocrisy and bullshit in the space of a few lines. You were made for a career in politics.

[glenshane]

@Julio_Geordio

The CSO only release them at year end for some reason

Because cause of death takes a long time to establish…crime, misadventure etc all have to be ruled out etc

[cluaindiuic]

@cluaindiuic

I’ve seen the total unofficial suicide stats from 2020.

I can confirm, based on the same comparison of 2019 data, that there has been less suicides in 2020 than 2019.

I would caveat that to reiterate a point I made a couple of months ago.

@cluaindiuic

My biggest concern in the area of mental health with regard to this lockdown is the guy who lost his livelihood. Facing into winter, can’t afford Christmas. Feels like a failure, has a disastrous Christmas, hits January, SAD kicks in and he sees nothing positive to come. And there’s going to be tens of thousands of them in variations of that position scattered across towns and villages throughout the country on a scale that dwarfs previous years. I’d really stress to any of ye that if ye have people important to you who are trending like I’m describing above, you have to be overactive in the next 3 months to make sure they can hold it all together.

We’re entering a perfect storm for mental health so please be extra vigilant of the people in your life that are at risk. Similarly what I said before about anyone with the faintest suggestion of fraction of a hint of a cancer issue.

@cluaindiuic

You just can’t wait. Drag them, kicking and screaming, to a doctor. It’s too early to know what the impact will be but from the person I talked to in the area of cancer services in Ireland they’re deeply concerned with people arriving later than usual to be diagnosed. The raw numbers around cancer diagnoses would possibly suggest that numbers are marginally down but the late diagnoses are the real disaster they’re seeing. Waiting just a few weeks can turn a treatable illness into a terminal illness and diagnoses are later than normal this year so far.

If there’s 2 things to take from this.

1. Check in on those who are having it rough. If you are the one in the rough spot reach out for help.
2. The rules of cancer detection have not changed. Earlier the better. Do not wait. Do not allow anyone to wait.

Nothing here has changed. We’ve a hard few months ahead.
Be a leader in your home and community.

[flattythehurdler]

[Copper_pipe]

[glasagusban]

@The_Most_Infamous

People are dying mate - suicide and overdoses are through the roof.

@cluaindiuic

I’ve seen the total unofficial suicide stats from 2020.

I can confirm, based on the same comparison of 2019 data, that there has been less suicides in 2020 than 2019.

@The_Most_Infamous, do you other data on this?