We need to lock down forever
One could be forgiven for thinking thatâs what the let it rip lunatics always wanted, without telling anybody of course. A fiendish double bluff?
She likely has to take all manner of precautions when considering going out to pubs, restaurants etc at the best of times nevermind under covid? A chest infection caught from damp clothing and late night revelry could finish her off so Iâd imagine she chooses not to pursue such exploits of her own volition?
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People with right-of-centre political outlooks seem to get over covid much quicker than those on the left. Might be worth investigating
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Youâd have to really feel for her. I link in this other point from you because I think itâs related.
How do you respond to each of these points in a covid world? What level of restrictions do either necessitate?
I think myself the UK should have maintained some mitigation measures, masks, some safety measures for pubs or clubs. Is long covid enough of a reason to maintain significant levels of restrictions? No. Would some minor mitigation measures be enough to protect this lady? Probably not. Itâs an impossible balance to strike, I think Ireland and the UK have both gotten wrong at opposite ends of the spectrum.
Looks like the vaccines donât work.
Variants are obviously a fact of life with viruses but is it true to say that the âbadâ variants, eg UK and Indian, emerge from areas with rampant Covid infections?
Therefore it f we restrict rampant infections we lower the likelihood of future âbadâ variants?
I wouldnât say that but I can see us living with restrictions on off for a long time and likely more severe restrictions in the winter.
I donât think many people die or anything but this stuff in Israel is definitely disappointing.
That article is a load of bollox.
The vaccines do work. They are still 93% effective at preventing serious illness/hospitalisation.
It only drops to 64% effective at preventing mild symptoms.
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It needs spread to mutate, the more the spread the more opportunities to mutate.
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The dreaded hay-fever
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Ergo the more powerful the spread the more powerful the mutation.
So if the UK continue with their Freedom Day idea then we can expect another more powerful UK variant in future.
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Iâm actually taken aback at how stupid some people are
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How do you mean powerful spread and powerful mutation. Thatâs not my understanding of how it works anyway. My understanding is that every time it spreads it offers an opportunity to mutate, mutations that make it spread easier will
proliferate. The more spread the more opportunities to mutate.
Look, the western world is going to be all vaccinated long before most of the world because we are selfish fuckers. So weâll all be vaccinated but spread will still be unchecked elsewhere. Whatâs the point in us trying to limit spread because maybe variants will happen when thereâs a huge world out there where they are more likely to happen anyway?
Thus far vaccines work against all variants. If one comes out that overcomes vaccines then they can be tweaked quickly and we top up and go again. Vaccines are the way out, lash them out, get back to normal.
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Yeah fair enough.
In a post Covid world weâre going to have to get used to masks, social distancing, limits on gatherings especially during winter when health service is stretched.
Any spike in respiratory illness from now on will be a lever to reimpose some restrictions as the equation has been set that restrictions save lives so anything we can do to save lives must be done.
Whether that is a good or bad thing will remain to be seen over next few years but itâs naive to think we wonât have some restrictions used over winters to come as hospitals are strained (as they always are). The level and extent of those restrictions remains to be seen - it might just be masks and distancing or it could be a lot more.
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Youâve become more and more of a hysterical screaming Mary as this year has worn on.
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That is not going to happen. We canât have restrictions and businesses closing because the health service canât handle people catching the flu or chest infections. Post Covid there should be a push to sort out the health services rather than impose restrictions on people.
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Have a lie down for yourself there mate.
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