Iâm not alone sham. 26 deaths akin to turning your country into an isolated island. Fair play and how will that work out for ireland? If it wasnât for international trade and MNCs weâd be broke. The mental gymnastics to justify zero vovid than cry when airlineâs are going out of business, people losing livelihoods, an Irish person is caught in MHQ or a family member coming into iteland to visit a sick relatives is stuck in MHQ while their loved one dies. Crocodile tears for those who scream for zero covid and the injustice of how unhumane we have become against a virus that in the grand context of things isnât that deadly. Yes it kills people but we live with virus and disease everyday since the dawn of time. Whatâs different now? Mass media? The Internet? Unlimited information.
Ireland cannot be like the zero covid North Koreas of the world. Its pointless now with vaccine too. A wasted argument. Iâve my haircut. A few pints, cans at thurlus greyhound stadium and a sun holiday. All within touching distance. Pure zen
Thatâs some rant. And all in favour of proven failed policy. You should join the DUP. Michael MacNamara is a big fan, he says so himself, but he didnât have to, we could have guessed.
When the next pandemic rolls around be sure to offer your expertise. The self appointed internet experts will surely have all the answers.
At any given movement, 40k Australians have been denied entry to the country due to their border policies. Many of these people were left with limited means abroad due to social security running out and being on casual labour.
They have separated families and recently criminalised return to Australia.
Geoffrey Robertson described Australia as not a respectable nation with the country taken to the UN for Human Rights abuses over their policy.
Protect paradise at all costs and all that.
Whatâs worse is this was not even possible in Ireland but we still had some collective delusion that we could just have pints if we locked up foreigners. I will say that it is to Irelandâs credit that once the horror of MHQ was seen, it began to be rolled back. We still pursed it though and still have separated families, it is a stain on Ireland and the people who demanded it most.
Itâs funny how in a year phrases like âleaky bordersâ became mainstream in the likes of the Guardian. Even they though have turned against Jacinda with her latest idea to stop low paid migrants entering NZ. They seem to think with their new found fame that theyâll be able to attract a âbetter class of migrantâ. I think they are in for a rude awakening in the next few months on that tbh.
Thatâs a lovely wall of text but it doesnât mask the fact that Australia and New Zealandâs Covid policies have been extremely successful, and crucially, far more humane when taken in the round.
While here in Ireland, the supposedly âhumaneâ policies you advocated proved barbaric, as I know too well because they killed my father.
And I have no fucking problem saying that I hold blowhard gobshites like you, in their ignorant, shamanic certainty, responsible for spreading the âDone With Covidâ narrative.
If I was you, Iâd have a bit of shame and shut up, having been consistently wrong for the last year.
A bit of genuine advice, go to bed. When I spent a year on the dole over this lockdown I started getting up at 6 or 7 every morning for swimming/ exercise with mates who I couldnât let down or lose face in front of. Complete game changer, I wouldnât have made it through without it but as it was I was flourishing. I ended up getting up earlier than when I had a job and I could never have imagined Iâd be able to do that. Nothing good is going to come from fighting on Internet boards after midnight, if you canât see that by now thereâs not much hope for you. Youâve got to take care of yourself, what youâre doing basically amount to self harm IMO.
Western Europe with a similar population to the US also has ~600k deaths. Central and eastern Europe have a higher death rate, some as high as +50% (Czech, Hungary), than the US and UK, the two countries some point to as examples of greatest failure. The reality is unless one pursued a zero Covid strategy from the beginning, attempts to contain the virus had roughly the same outcome. I canât remember, were you calling for zero Covid in Feb/March 2020?
Most US states abandoned stay at home orders in May of 2020, and they had no different an outcome than those who kept strict restrictions in place. What that demonstrates is it was possible to open up relatively safely, in effect doing what Sweden did from the beginning. It made no difference to the outcome, the truly important restrictions were on limiting indoor events and gatherings.
Any country that had minimal fatalities infringed on the human rights of their citizens. Any country with high levels of fatalities are being hailed as a success. Get it? I donât and I hope I never do.
