Circumstances changed drastically mate, I still donāt agree with the system, as Iāve said numerous times. But itās now in and has been accepted/swallowed.
I see a huge difference between July and end August too. By AI final time almost everyone has had the chance to be fully vaccinated if they want to be. That takes most of the unfairness out of it.
I can see no reason not to extend it to itās natural conclusion, but for some reason we still maintain restrictions on outdoor events.
Weāve nearly everyone vaccinated, and you canāt get safer than outdoors.
Funnily enough there is a news item on BBC news about it right now. The NHS is encouraging pregnant women to get the vaccine because thousands of pregnant women are not getting it in the UK.
I know you are one of these lads who thinks being right wing makes him intelligent ā when the exact opposite is the case ā but you might have a little think about the issue before being so confident about it.
Cranks like you are not being allowed to keep Irish society in stasis, economically and socially, and rightly so. You were perfectly happy, according to your posts here, to see Covid-19 make its way through society with whatever collateral damage ā in the name of your āfreedomā and ālibertyā. Now you are mewling about some pregnant friend who could not get an indoor meal. Now you are up in arms about the āriskā involved in a vaccine. Where was your concern with āriskā when the risks involved would have meant many people needlessly dying? Any answer?
You are a clown and a hypocrite ā and should be barred from every pub in Ireland, to increase general levels of enjoyment.
Iāve already said I think there should be full attendance at the all Ireland final. I just donāt think we should be extending the exlusion of people to more areas of life, thatās the difference between us.
Iād be fine with them now if they had a testing element to pass. Thereās no unfairness then.
Since weāve accepted them, I suppose you keep them in place until we reach whatever the acceptable level of herd immunity is, 80% vaccinated/recovered or whatever.
Delta changed nothing, this is just public health bods globally trying to mandate vaccines by the back door. They made some sense when Denmark introduced them in order to try and open up the economy earlier.
In fairness though, it could be worse, the clowns in the CDC have made a huge mistake in their recent communications on masks.
Do you object to a pregnant person getting a pass on the Covid cert? The U.K. are giving a pass to vegans because that is the ārightā sort of position to take, sure you agree with some dispensations here?
As ever horsey mate we have more that unites us than divides us. Iād be in favour of full stadiums by end August, simple as. But I accept that wonāt happen in Ireland.
But at end August practically everyone has the chance to have had a vaccine. The unfairness is much lessened. I think having full stadiums on the same basis as indoor hospitality currently works is an imperfect solution, but far better than only 40k.
I think the 40k limitation is pointless and achieves nothing, and shows our Stockholm syndrome like reluctance to ever actually emerge from this.
That is weird I think. Maybe itās a good thing for her she wasnāt allowed indoors.
There are going to be hard cases, like Sidās immuno-compromised lady on twitter. But we can only do our best for them, we canāt build the rules around them. Thatās hugely unfair on people affected by serious illness.
I donāt have much sympathy for your friends lady, if she wants to go eat indoors sheās a fucking eejit, in all fairness.
You just made up a load of things I said so I did the same back to show you how infantile it is. I am not right wing. I donāt want loads of people to die. This is just the ridiculous argument that idiots like you use for anyone who has questions about certain aspects of restrictions.
Certain people, yes, need to be given dispensations. I doubt there is anyone who would argue otherwise. Pregnant women would obviously form one category.
There are serious issues with employment law in this area. We are only at the start of a highly complex process. You can say: āItās wrong to make vaccination a condition of someoneās employment.ā You can equally say: āWhat if someone gets seriously ill from contracting Covid-19 at work?ā There are no simple answers ā all the more so since the vaccinated, in some degree, can still pass on the virus. That caveat made, there is no doubt that vaccination will have to be the main plank for restoring normality. And āvaccine passportsā go hand in hand with vaccination. As I glossed before, there has to be an incentive for getting vaccinated.