Coronavirus Thread (Markey hates Immigrants )

[glasagusban]

Nonsense. Many of our measures have been inconsistent, nonsensical, or pointless, some of them even racist.

I don’t agree with the response. But I accept the reason for the response was in fact the threat posed by Delta. That’s just apparent.

Your reasoning that the response should have been lockdown or nothing is stupid and nothing further needs to be said about it.

[Tim_Riggins]

@Malarkey

I will confine myself to noting that the idea of vaccine passports as in tune with a central plank of the GBD makes you uneasy. If people think about matters a little deeper, without being in hock to right wing shibboleths, many things become apparent. Of course, the GBD is a crock of right wing shite, the usual stuff from the usual suspects. And the fact that sundry ‘libertarians’ are now terribly put out about vaccine ‘risk’ and vaccine ‘curtailment of freedom’ makes me coldly laugh. The ultimate freedom is not to become seriously ill or die.

Vaccine passports are here to stay for the moment. What would answer your criterion (“on the back of good debate”) is hard to say, because you are rigidly anti anything that derives from state action and so cannot think properly about such issues.

Given time, life will return to something approaching normality. But there are going to be a lot of difficult cases around employment.

You’re going off here and missing the point.

To clarify;

1. my post above says that I didn’t agree with their strategy overall

2. I’ve said on balance that I’d have taken VPs a few months ago like they had in Denmark. If take up had been low in Ireland, I’d have taken the civil liberties hit

My issue is with how they’ve been brought in, administered and also how disagreements with them are met by the likes of yourself. @Horsebox’s point was very valid.

[pulpfiction]

Some right spineless I’m all right Jack types on this thread. The same cunts would have turned away when the Jews were being loaded on the trains.

[Malarkey]

@Tim_Riggins

@Malarkey

I will confine myself to noting that the idea of vaccine passports as in tune with a central plank of the GBD makes you uneasy. If people think about matters a little deeper, without being in hock to right wing shibboleths, many things become apparent. Of course, the GBD is a crock of right wing shite, the usual stuff from the usual suspects. And the fact that sundry ‘libertarians’ are now terribly put out about vaccine ‘risk’ and vaccine ‘curtailment of freedom’ makes me coldly laugh. The ultimate freedom is not to become seriously ill or die.

Vaccine passports are here to stay for the moment. What would answer your criterion (“on the back of good debate”) is hard to say, because you are rigidly anti anything that derives from state action and so cannot think properly about such issues.

Given time, life will return to something approaching normality. But there are going to be a lot of difficult cases around employment.

You’re going off here and missing the point.

To clarify;

1. my post above says that I didn’t agree with their strategy overall

2. I’ve said on balance that I’d have taken VPs a few months ago like they had in Denmark. If take up had been low in Ireland, I’d have taken the civil liberties hit

My issue is with how they’ve been brought in, administered and also how disagreements with them are met by the likes of yourself. @Horsebox’s point was very valid.

No, it was not. He was just using the emotive topic of a pregnant woman – in vulgar fashion, to my eye – for making a typically shallow point.

Whether (pregnant) unvaccinated women can eat inside a pub is not one of the many terribly difficult issues facing the country. To pretend this issue is central can only seem risible to any sensible person.

I like my freedom in concrete terms. And I prefer to be in a pub where everyone else there is vaccinated. I believe the great majority of people in Ireland feel the same way. Why? Because they are, largely, sensible and pragmatic and not in hock to right wing shite.

If there was a Venn diagram of odious people, it would contain, for starters, Toby Young, Laurence Fox, Brendan O’Neill, Claire Fox, Darren Grimes, Dolores Cahill, Gemma O’Doherty and John Waters. I mean, there is also a question of taste. Who in their right mind would want to be on the same side of any argument those deplorables would make…

[TheUlteriorMotive]

@Malarkey

What if someone gets seriously ill from contracting Covid-19 at work?’

That logic was used to discriminate against HIV positive people for years.

“What if?” is the thin end of the wedgie that right wing lads like you like to hand out

[Malarkey]

@TheUlteriorMotive

@Malarkey

What if someone gets seriously ill from contracting Covid-19 at work?’

That logic was used to discriminate against HIV positive people for years.

“What if?” is the thin end of the wedgie that right wing lads like you like to hand out

Look, fuck off. I have better things to do than bothering with morons.

[Cheasty]

Those who supported the Covid equivalent of the fake “declarations” denying climate change and the link between smoking and cancer should never be let forget it.

Prof. Gavin Yamey MD MPH

Prof. Gavin Yamey MD MPH

[The_Most_Infamous]

@Malarkey

@Tim_Riggins

@Malarkey

I will confine myself to noting that the idea of vaccine passports as in tune with a central plank of the GBD makes you uneasy. If people think about matters a little deeper, without being in hock to right wing shibboleths, many things become apparent. Of course, the GBD is a crock of right wing shite, the usual stuff from the usual suspects. And the fact that sundry ‘libertarians’ are now terribly put out about vaccine ‘risk’ and vaccine ‘curtailment of freedom’ makes me coldly laugh. The ultimate freedom is not to become seriously ill or die.

Vaccine passports are here to stay for the moment. What would answer your criterion (“on the back of good debate”) is hard to say, because you are rigidly anti anything that derives from state action and so cannot think properly about such issues.

Given time, life will return to something approaching normality. But there are going to be a lot of difficult cases around employment.

You’re going off here and missing the point.

To clarify;

1. my post above says that I didn’t agree with their strategy overall

2. I’ve said on balance that I’d have taken VPs a few months ago like they had in Denmark. If take up had been low in Ireland, I’d have taken the civil liberties hit

My issue is with how they’ve been brought in, administered and also how disagreements with them are met by the likes of yourself. @Horsebox’s point was very valid.

No, it was not. He was just using the emotive topic of a pregnant woman – in vulgar fashion, to my eye – for making a typically shallow point.

Whether (pregnant) unvaccinated women can eat inside a pub is not one of the many terribly difficult issues facing the country. To pretend this issue is central can only seem risible to any sensible person.

I like my freedom in concrete terms. And I prefer to be in a pub where everyone else there is vaccinated. I believe the great majority of people in Ireland feel the same way. Why? Because they are, largely, sensible and pragmatic and not in hock to right wing shite.

If there was a Venn diagram of odious people, it would contain, for starters, Toby Young, Laurence Fox, Brendan O’Neill, Claire Fox, Darren Grimes, Dolores Cahill, Gemma O’Doherty and John Waters. I mean, there is also a question of taste. Who in their right mind would want to be on the same side of any argument those deplorables would make…

You’d want to stay out of hotels then or the restaurant I was in yesterday somewhere in the midwest of Ireland. Won’t mention the name. No talk of covid certs, we didnt wear masks going in and were given the choice of indoor or outdoor dining.

We chose outdoor. Food was great as well. We’ll be back.

[TheUlteriorMotive]

[Horsebox]

Vulgar fashion you are easily the most vulgar poster on this site. Your default mode is insulting people or threatening them with violence. You and your fellow zero nutter on this site who pretend to be so caring and empathetic for society are also the most unpleasant posters to engage with and also the most supportive of extremist exclusive social policies. Square that circle Mr Lothario.

I brought up my pregnant friend because it was a real world example of how these restrictions are completely unfair but of course the caring wokesters on here have decided that she is a fucking idiot for wanting to go for a meal. The mental gymnastics ye dangerous cunts do to justify your extremist ideologies is quite something to behold.

[Malarkey]

@Horsebox

Vulgar fashion you are easily the most vulgar poster on this site. Your default mode is insulting people or threatening them with violence. You and your fellow zero nutter on this site who pretend to be so caring and empathetic for society are also the most unpleasant posters to engage with and also the most supportive of extremist exclusive social policies. Square that circle Mr Lothario.

I brought up my pregnant friend because it was a real world example of how these restrictions are completely unfair but of course the caring wokesters on here have decided that she is a fucking idiot for wanting to go for a meal. The mental gymnastics ye dangerous cunts do to justify your extremist ideologies is quite something to behold.

Look, I have taken more abuse here than probably anyone. So I make no apologies for robustness with people who deserve it.

I think you are a vulgarian, into the bargain. I am sure you will live with it.

A gom pretending to be a gom so as not to be a gom…

[Malarkey]

@TheUlteriorMotive

He is a dude.

You are a delude.

Quite a difference.

[Tim_Riggins]

@Malarkey

No, it was not. He was just using the emotive topic of a pregnant woman – in vulgar fashion, to my eye – for making a typically shallow point.

Whether (pregnant) unvaccinated women can eat inside a pub is not one of the many terribly difficult issues facing the country. To pretend this issue is central can only seem risible to any sensible person.

I like my freedom in concrete terms. And I prefer to be in a pub where everyone else there is vaccinated. I believe the great majority of people in Ireland feel the same way. Why? Because they are, largely, sensible and pragmatic and not in hock to right wing shite.

If there was a Venn diagram of odious people, it would contain, for starters, Toby Young, Laurence Fox, Brendan O’Neill, Claire Fox, Darren Grimes, Dolores Cahill, Gemma O’Doherty and John Waters. I mean, there is also a question of taste. Who in their right mind would want to be on the same side of any argument those deplorables would make…

Say the same about a minority and see where it’ll get you.

You reacted negatively to it because you know it is a valid point on the issues surrounding this, but as you’ve gone Super Covid you pretend as it is “risible”.

I know you might like your own security blanket as a presumably older member of society, but that’s not how society works. The concern by pregnant women is a valid one, I assume you are happy enough with vegans being exempted in the U.K.?

[The_Most_Infamous]

@Horsebox

Vulgar fashion you are easily the most vulgar poster on this site. Your default mode is insulting people or threatening them with violence. You and your fellow zero nutter on this site who pretend to be so caring and empathetic for society are also the most unpleasant posters to engage with and also the most supportive of extremist exclusive social policies. Square that circle Mr Lothario.

I brought up my pregnant friend because it was a real world example of how these restrictions are completely unfair but of course the caring wokesters on here have decided that she is a fucking idiot for wanting to go for a meal. The mental gymnastics ye dangerous cunts do to justify your extremist ideologies is quite something to behold.

I’m beginning to wonder if these extremists were ever sincere pre covid with regard to their woke shite. I’m not referencing @Malarkey on that one. But generally in the real world not specifically TFK, they’ve turned into fascists.

[Horsebox]

Robustness talk to fellas in a pub the way you talk to posters on here and you will see what happens. It is not normal to threaten people with violence just because they disagree with you on a topic. You constantly do it. It’s very strange behaviour.

[Cheasty]

To the nutcases, everybody is fascist except actual fascists.

@The_Most_Infamous

SF and PBP need to isolate themselves quickly imo from dissident groups and fucking scumbags who are rounded up via social media.

It’s ironic that these so called anti fascists groups - then feel they have the right to physically attack whoever disagrees with them on a subject. A dangerous precedent to be setting regardless of the rights and wrongs of the matter.

@The_Most_Infamous

We are a fascist state now

@The_Most_Infamous

I’m beginning to wonder if these extremists were ever sincere pre covid with regard to their woke shite. I’m not referencing @Malarkey on that one. But generally in the real world not specifically TFK, they’ve turned into fascists.

@The_Most_Infamous

The gallery here is great though, full of woke cunts who’ve actually unconciously turned fascist.

@The_Most_Infamous

I don’t agree with that obviously, but some of these scientists are zero covid fascists and seem to have serious power over governments including our own FFG shambles.

[Thomas_Brady]

Not in the slightest. You don’t need to go on holiday abroad…and that post was aimed at all, where did I say non vaccinated? Swing and a miss.

[Malarkey]

@Tim_Riggins

@Malarkey

No, it was not. He was just using the emotive topic of a pregnant woman – in vulgar fashion, to my eye – for making a typically shallow point.

Whether (pregnant) unvaccinated women can eat inside a pub is not one of the many terribly difficult issues facing the country. To pretend this issue is central can only seem risible to any sensible person.

I like my freedom in concrete terms. And I prefer to be in a pub where everyone else there is vaccinated. I believe the great majority of people in Ireland feel the same way. Why? Because they are, largely, sensible and pragmatic and not in hock to right wing shite.

If there was a Venn diagram of odious people, it would contain, for starters, Toby Young, Laurence Fox, Brendan O’Neill, Claire Fox, Darren Grimes, Dolores Cahill, Gemma O’Doherty and John Waters. I mean, there is also a question of taste. Who in their right mind would want to be on the same side of any argument those deplorables would make…

Say the same about a minority and see where it’ll get you.

You reacted negatively to it because you know it is a valid point on the issues surrounding this, but as you’ve gone Super Covid you pretend as it is “risible”.

I know you might like your own security blanket as a presumably older member of society, but that’s not how society works. The concern by pregnant women is a valid one, I assume you are happy enough with vegans being exempted in the U.K.?

Why do you keep asking me the same questions? I answered that one. Yes, certain people, including pregnant women and vegans, will have to be offered dispensations.

Does this dispensation mean sitting indoors in pubs without being vaccinated? Probably not.

I have no idea what “Super Covid” means. Just another silly phrase, I imagine, for highly complex issues.

I will pass over the childish comment about “older member of society”. That childishness says more about your perspective than any gloss of mine could.

[glasagusban]

@Horsebox

but of course the caring wokesters on here have decided that she is a fucking idiot for wanting to go for a meal

She is though, in all fairness, right?

[LionelRitchie]

Asking who will go on holidays abroad only to lead into saying those that do are traitors and selfish is coercive.

You set up a thread for the very purpose