Coronavirus Thread (Markey hates Immigrants )

Tierneevin1979 · July 31, 2021, 5:41pm

Apparently the reporting of cases in the UK is now “a bit fishy”, there can be no other explanation for cases dropping.

Cheasty · July 31, 2021, 5:42pm

Apparently cases going from 2k to 51k is not a surge now.

Tim_Riggins · July 31, 2021, 5:56pm

Tierneevin1979:

It’s an interesting take that this outbreak is an example of vaccines working. From all accounts this was a mad week of partying, a lot of it indoors, mostly young people in their 20s and 30s. At the time of the study 469 people had been diagnosed with Covid, 364 fully vaccinated and 105 unvaccinated. 80% of the 364 vaccinated reported symptoms, 1% were hospitalized. Of the 105 unvaccinated 1% were hospitalized.

Admittedly it’s a small sample size, but this suggests to me that for young healthy people the risk from Covid is similar whether you are vaccinated or not, and that the Delta variant is not more deadly than prior variants (there were no deaths from the extended sample of 833 in the above article and 7 hospitalizations). Immune systems work! The other conclusion is that vaccinated people who get infected carry as much virus as the unvaccinated, this has been confirmed by the CDC.

I think the take home message is if you go to a super spreader event don’t be surprised if you get Covid, whether you’re vaccinated or not. It’s clearly still not a good idea to go to a crowded bar or restaurant if you are in a vulnerable category, and maybe there has been a small bit of overconfidence on display from the vaccinated.

So we are back to where we started, the vulnerable need to be protected, and thankfully based on the evidence vaccines are doing that.

True but Ptown during Bear Week is unique

endakenny · July 31, 2021, 5:56pm

Where are the cases going to rise next???

Tim_Riggins · July 31, 2021, 6:00pm

Biff_Egan · July 31, 2021, 6:09pm

Throw in a few border bubbles with Pakistan and some unoccupied lorries and India could easily have done it.

Tim_Riggins · July 31, 2021, 6:51pm

The Indian government just need to believe more

Tim_Riggins · July 31, 2021, 6:57pm

Fakenewz

gaillimhmick · July 31, 2021, 10:34pm

glenshane · July 31, 2021, 10:42pm

I’m surprised @Bandage hasn’t censored @Tierneevin1979

gaillimhmick · July 31, 2021, 10:51pm

This vaccine is completely useless.

glenshane · July 31, 2021, 11:32pm

As they say on TFK, you literally couldn’t make it up

Cheasty · July 31, 2021, 11:55pm

Arthur · July 31, 2021, 11:59pm

In other words OIUTF?

Bod95 · August 1, 2021, 12:01am

Great news

Cheasty · August 1, 2021, 12:02am

In other words, vaccinate ta fuck, discriminate in favour of those who get vaccinated, and let those who refuse to be vaccinated pay the penalty this winter and beyond.

Thomas_Brady · August 1, 2021, 12:03am

Yup, only a complete right wing nut ball with a tin foil hat and a belief in lizard aliens wouldn’t get vaccinated.

Cheasty · August 1, 2021, 12:07am

It’s genuinely hard to find the words to adequately describe just what a piece of shit Ron DeathSentence is.

Bod95 · August 1, 2021, 12:08am

Completely agree just back from town had about 8 or 9 pints inside initially but was out smoking mainly a few cants I encountered outside were on about 5G Bill Gates etc I just let them off wasn’t in the mood to argue

Tierneevin1979 · August 1, 2021, 12:18am

Fake News.

This data is mainly not CDC data, it was compiled by NBC news who called state health officials. The CDC stopped reporting data May 1 on vaccinated cases, and only track hospitalized and deaths of those vaccinated. The data is also partial, 9 states provided no data and another 11 provided no hospitalization and death data. So it is basically shit data, no surprise you embrace it.

There is no question that breakthough cases were rare up to a few months ago but they have been increasing, for example Utah were reporting 8% of cases in early June were breakthrough, that is now up to 20%. So something has changed and more vaccinated people are getting infected, most of the impact is likely the Delta variant which has a higher breakthrough potential and has become the dominant strain over the last two months.

If breakthorugh cases were so rare, why would the CDC be recommending that vaccinated people wear masks? The reality is they were rare but are becoming more common.