Heâs widely ridiculed by people who have been consistently wrong.
I put up stats because itâs important to have facts to debate on.
Tis only a flu lads. Itâll burn out
You didnât deal with what he said. Deal with what he said about maternal immune inflamation. It should be easy given your expertise.
And the facts and the data are that the difference between those countries or states that removed most of the civil liberties of all itâs citizens and those that didnât are negligible. This is something that is very uncomfortable for zero covid mentallers to deal with which is why they never address it and I will bet everything I have that you wonât either.
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New Zealand has had 26 deaths in total and has also had normal life for the vast majority of the pandemic.
So you are wrong. Youâre going down the road of the cranks we donât have to name here, because we all know who they are.
I donât take anything he says seriously and when someone says âwe have no data on this butâŚâ then it doesnât need to be dealt with. When he comes up with some data then I will deal with it otherwise itâs just guessing about stuff.
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Variants are a cod.
The Indian measles variant will be next
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âThere is no data butâŚâ
Fuck off Sid.
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Grand so. Itâs your right not to take anything he says seriously. I donât take anything said by a significant cohort of posters here seriously.
There are good reasons why I donât.
New Zealand has a unique geographical advantage that most countries donât have. Address the question about the negligible difference between Florida and Texas and the other US states please.
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Iâll refer to Doctor Fox PHD again
You tell me the difference. Go through it, state by state. Youâre the expert.
You tell me the difference. Youâre the expert. Wecan both play that game. Youâre an expert on everything. I said I would bet everything I have that you wouldnât address it and I was right because it blows your argument apart.
just catching up there on this
That was brilliant stuff today by Hoolahan 
a âdark cloudââŚ
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Youâre the person thatâs claiming something. Itâs not up to me to make your argument. The onus is on you.
A lot of lads are going to get a shock when they are summoned back to the office in September.
Eh!
Youâre vaccinated pal.
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Youâre not claiming anything? What are you doing then?
Your hero: âwe have no data on this butâŚâ and your stance is why wonât anyone deal with his point.
Actual data and statistics: what about New Zealand though?
Good night Sid. Zero Covid train left the station a long time ago and is not coming back. Try to make yourself comfortable with that point and youâll save yourself a lot of typing.
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Probably the best real world comparison. Restrictions or not makes fuck all difference
Iâm not sure what youâre doing to be honest. My points are fairly easy to understand.
I think itâs fairly obvious at this stage that we arenât going to be implementing Zero Covid.
Iâm simply pointing out that the benefits of doing so were clear. Thereâs no point in moaning about so called ârestrictions on civil libertiesâ when you were one of the very people howling for policy which made those restrictions inevitable, while you also howl at people who were advocating for policies proven to work elsewhere, which resulted in what was effectively normal life.
Itâs fairly obvious who was right and who was wrong.
California has had a considerably lower death rate than Florida in recent times.
Iâm not an expert in exactly what each US state is doing as regards restrictions or non-restrictions, but I thought it was worth pointing out that California has been doing better.