I replied to a post which referenced SF, I didnât bring them up. Read again
you said the opposition.
Exactly. Labour, SF, Social Democrats and PBP all get plenty of airtime to make their views known and none of them are providing an alternative view. Thatâs fair enough if they think everything NPHET do is correct but its annoying for those of us that question some of their decisions that there is nobody that does this in the Dail bar a few parish pump independents.
Alan Kelly in fairness has voiced some reservations about restrictions at times
Like surely the time could have been building a panel of people who in turn could be trained and be on standby to cope with surges? Obviously some of these people may become unavailable over time but that is easily resolved. Itâs only a bit of admin work in maintaining the panel.
You need elasticity. Martin is saying they hope to be down the 50 cases a day in December. What happens the tacers then? What happens when there is a surge in January?
NPHET are getting their advice from HIQA it seems
NPHET direct the National Testing Strategy which involves tracing. I have posted this before and you ignored it then as well.
No point going over it again
Ya, so they say what it needs. Who is implementing it?
The National Public Health Emergency Team (NPHET) has endorsed a proposal to enhance contact tracing of confirmed cases of Covid-19 in order to pinpoint the sources of community transmission.
The HSEâs current policy is to question confirmed cases about people and places they have visited only up to 48 before symptoms begin, rather than to the point at which they were likely infected with the virus.
Michael McNamara is the only TD that Iâve heard with an alternative view.
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NPHET said Ireland didnât need testing beyond 48 hours like South Korea which was the standard expected.
They changed it in September when criticised, thatâs all on record.
NPHET were present at meetings where it was decided not to deploy more contact tracing resources.
Also NPHET are the HSE. Why so defensive?
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NPHET are an advisory group. Iâm not being defensive. Iâm trying to figure out what is their mandate. Youâre complaining that they havenât implemented the tracing. They arenât going to implement anything. They pass the advice and it is implemented elsewhere to their standard or not.
Now if their advice is wrong. Lash away at them.
If the implementation is wrong. Itâs not on them
All of the lads posting on this thread. Do any of ye work?
Work smart, not hard
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You replied to a post and set our your agenda.
If arenât man enough to stand over what you say then you shouldnât say it.
Michael McNamara is effectively the opposition currently .
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More of this shit posting from you.
Read my post I linked, itâs all on record. They were charged with being South Korea in March and did not bother until called out on it by the Restaurant Association of Ireland.
Nolan had described this as an academic excercise previously and that Irish people were too forgetful. However according to Chris Johns of the Irish Times, this is what is actually going on;
https://twitter.com/skiduffer/status/1318661002280554497?s=21
How is it a shit post? Is it NPHETâs responsibility to implement a tracing strategy beyond giving advice?
Do you know the reasons why NPHETâs advice wasnât followed?
Is it NPHETâs responsibility to implement a tracing strategy beyond giving advice?
Just answer this question, please
I do stand over what I said. Iâm just making the point I didnât bring up SF, which I didnât, as much as you wish I did
Mary Lou on morning Ireland the other day pointed out fairly that she does not get access to the presentations the government get from NPHET or the other supporting data, and so it is hard for SF or the opposition to demur, they are not equally informed. If they disagreed on the basis of incomplete information it would be very irresponsible. If they argued strongly against NPHET recommendations theyâd be accused of undermining efforts to get the pandemic under control. Its a tough space for the opposition to be honest. Itâs a bit silly to be going around saying SF wouldnât have done any different.
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No sorry but you are wrong, it is there in black and white. They direct the National Testing Strategy.
Have a look at all meetings re track and trace, always NPHET there.
All meetings with stakeholders with NPHET there and of course they were, they were directing it.
The first issue came down to them ignoring direction to be like South Korea.
They then lied about it and claimed it was a resourcing issue, when they say there while resources were redeployed and thousands of volunteers were sat on the shelf.
Also NPHET are the HSE/DoH, as @TheUlteriorMotive stated, a surgical mask does not cover that up.
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Youâre making a point that critics of government should keep schtum because of what a party with no powers to introduce policy or make decisions says. Utterly bizarre logic.
You havenât had the balls to be honest and admit your agenda. Why are you focusing on those with no ability to make decisions to introduce policy?