Coronavirus Thread - Pause before - The Final Battle (Part 1)

Ah lovely

Don’t respond to me again please.

Must be exhausting being wired to think everything the government does is an attempt to ruin your life …I understand frustration at incompetence of elected officials but the personalisation of every move is really fcukin odd and seriously egotistical.

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Don’t post such shite.

that fella Neil Clark has a go fund me for an anti-stalking campaign. There is 36 large in it. What the fuck would having 36 large do against a stalker ?

A bit of a tangent from the thread, but related to that, a friend of mine lived with a schizophrenic guy in Iraq. One of the symptoms the guy had, a common one, is a belief that the government is trying to persecute him. He could see evidence of it everywhere, the way that car is parked or the fact the hot water didn’t work today was the government trying to fuck with him. My mate was saying how the Internet makes it all so much worse, because the guy can go onto various sites and see literally thousands of other schizophrenic people reporting the same thing and can point at it and say look it’s happening everywhere it must be true.

Anyway, I guess that’s what it must be like for the likes of @ironmoth, @Ambrose_McNulty, @Enrique and @Horsebox when they post on here and see other weirdo oddball dimwits reinforcing their own views.

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In his defence, there’s a fair chance the government might be out to get you in Iraq

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A real increase in traffic this morning. Dr Tony will be like James Stewart in Rear Window this morning.

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Cases being north of 300 yesterday is a pretty high starting point in NPHETs eyes with exiting level 5 and it wont take long for those numbers to increase significantly. I hope that they can be managed around these levels for a while as there is a long enough lead in time to christmas.

Government expects case numbers to continue to fall for two weeks.

Will be riddled again within a month. Weren’t NPHET aiming for 100 a day? This is what Varadkar asked for when he was looking for comfort this lockdown would work. It hasn’t to the extent Nphet wanted it to. Grist to the mill for those who think level three was working and arguably not a huge amount more was gained by level 5.

Yeah a 100 a day was the target. Philip Nolan did say after the first 3 weeks that he expected cases to be down to 250 a day and that by the end of the 6 weeks to be around 50 a day. 100 was the worst case scenario. I think in making their predictions they haven’t acknowledged the extent to which schools and the mass movement of people that entails at 8-9 and 4-5 everyday.

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And they never acknowledged testing numbers or positivity.

Nolan is a busted flush at this stage, Level 5 did not go how they intended.

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How has this only 8 likes in 2 hours. Shame on you all.

Have we the lowest numbers in Europe?
Are we the first country in Europe that has come out of it’s lockdown?

Fairly good job done, all told

Are we the country in Europe with the longest lockdown? Is Dublin the only capital in Europe whose bars have been shut since March?

Answer my questions first, like a good man

Have we the lowest numbers in Europe? I don’t know but I’ll take your word for it. We are the first out because we were the first in by weeks.

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Level 5 is a busted flush by their own definition.

Cases did not go down to what they expected they would and close contacts increased. Test positivity had already decreased from 7.3% to 5% by the time it came in. Cases were falling when NPHET had expected them to increase right into November.

Hospitalisations had peaked pre Level 5. NPHET’s modelling of even the lower band of hospitalisations was off by nearly 30%.

It was the fear driven into the population in October and the ban on household visits that decreased cases.

There’s no point in NPHET moaning about the public altering their behaviour, that’s part and parcel of restrictions, and we know they were monitoring “worry” into October when it increased rapidly. They didn’t wait to see the impact of Level 3 and what’s even more disgraceful, they never presented the Government with the implications of it. As in their own words “Level 3 would not work”.

NPHET had a desire to return to March to May time but it wasn’t possible, they should have anticipated it. Sure Holohan delayed Lockdown 1.0 for these reasons;

We will need people to comply with those arrangements and if we start things early, people get fatigued with them, they cause significant hardship socially and economically and the compliance levels go down and they lose their effectiveness.

NPHET have got themselves muddled with half baked modelling.

Closing down retail was a very costly mistake.

And in fairness to NPHET, I can actually understand their worry on December as we still have a very susceptible population, but they live in a land of perpetual lockdowns which just doesn’t cut the mustard. You can only play the fear card so many times and you can only keep the economy dormant for so long.

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You are a hero Tim.