Coronavirus Thread - Pause before - The Final Battle (Part 1)

[EstebanSexface]

Jesus, that is grim, they got absolutely hammered in the first wave as well.

[Arthur]

Why sure it’s all a cod?

[Copper_pipe]

Conor (RiochtConor2)

[Tassotti]

the guards have just bust into the parents house because the brothers car was seen outside, update to follow

[Malarkey]

@Tierneevin1979

@Malarkey. On your Sweden vs Ireland question, I don’t have a whole lot to add to Tim’s response. There are so many factors involved in Covid death rates, and a lot of nonsense is talked on the subject, much of it politically motivated. First of all you can only trust the data from countries that are doing a reasonable job of correctly attributing deaths to Covid, based on testing and/or probable cause based on symptoms.

Comparing counties adjacent to each other doesn’t offer much value, Belgium borders Germany and the respective death rates are 931 per million compared to 121 per million. By your logic Belgians should be livid with their government. Sweden is 586, the UK 662, Ireland 380. Over time the death rates in western countries are converging, the US is 697 although there is a big variation among states but that has been narrowing.

My personal opinion is the death rate has mainly to do with the numbers of elderly in care homes (high percentage of early deaths) and the general health of the population. The age profile is a factor but not a big one in larger European countries, 65+ varies from 18% in the UK to 23% in Italy. Ireland is 13% so maybe that’s a factor along with being an island and outside of Dublin being sparsely populated. The ongoing high death rate in the US is almost certainly mainly due to higher levels of obesity and poor health.

I think we all agree there is no right answer, and so many factors to balance between trying to control the spread of a pathogen, protecting the most vulnerable, educating our kids and young adults, protecting people’s livelihoods, protecting businesses that will be vital to provide future employment, caring for the mental wellbeing of the broad population, etc. My opinion is Sweden, although they made mistakes early, have the balance more correct than most other western countries. Time will tell, 2021 and 2022 will be instructive in that regard.

Well, all I can say is that those largely sensible and restrained comments are a long long way from dud metaphysics about the inevitability of death licensing a stentorian non lockdown policy.

[flattythehurdler]

@Malarkey

dud metaphysics about the inevitability of death

I have some bad news for you

[JonSnow]

@Tassotti

the guards have just bust into the parents house because the brothers car was seen outside, update to follow

They won’t take us alive

[georgeorwell]

What an idiot

[TreatyStones]

535 positive swabs from 11,435
4.68% positivity rate.

Tony’s petulance in trying to regain the upper hand has cost the country dear.
Level 3 was most definitely working.

[Batigol]

The man’s ego was out of control

[myboyblue]

Tony should hang for this

[Batigol]

He’ll surely resign this evening?

[johnnysachs]

Apparently the cervical check tribunal was due to commence today but has been postponed. Luca Toni.

[Malarkey]

@georgeorwell

What an idiot

The mouse that roared.

[fistoffury]

I hope the old lad nally’d them

[Tank]

Is your aul boy a farmer?

[fenwaypark]

Seems very low number of tests?

[fistoffury]

Potential upside to this us the backlash will mean the government will dispense with this fuds advice

[Tank]

I saw speculation that tests and cases were dropping after the collapse in contact tracing.

[TreatyStones]

@fenwaypark

Seems very low number of tests?

It’s well down alright, but perhaps inline with falling cases and a weekend lull.
As cases fall the number of contacts needed to be tested will fall by a multiple. For every 100 less cases, that could be 500 less people who require tests.

The positivity rate has fallen too though which is very encouraging.