Coronavirus Thread - Pause before - The Final Battle (Part 1)

Thats because they can’t do anything until it is rolled out.

I’m supposed to go to Achill Island from Monaghan on 30 December. Any advice on how to evade the cops, what to tell them, how to go about it, etc?

Just tell them you are going home.

I just booked the breeders cup. 2 nights in New York. 5 in San Fran. Tipping down to del mar on the Thursday. Heading Vegas on the Sunday. Home the following Monday. Fuck the virus.

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In Afghanistan, life goes on as if coronavirus doesn’t exist

‘We live in a country with serious threats of war and poverty. Covid can’t compete’

Posters providing public health information about the coronavirus pandemic on display in Kabul, Afghanistan. Even as public health officials confirm a second deadly virus wave, Covid-19 is an afterthought. Photograph: Jim Huylebroek/New York Times

Posters providing public health information about the coronavirus pandemic on display in Kabul, Afghanistan. Even as public health officials confirm a second deadly virus wave, Covid-19 is an afterthought. Photograph: Jim Huylebroek/New York Times

David Zucchino and Fahim Abed

Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 01:00

For Mohammad Wakil (23), social distancing is an abstract concept. Every working day, he shakes hands with scores of customers at the teeming bazaar where he sells secondhand shoes. He handles filthy bank notes. He disdains hand sanitiser. A mask? Forget about it.

“There’s no coronavirus,” Wakil said in late October as shoppers swarmed his rickety stall. “It’s a lie told by the government.”

When the coronavirus pandemic first reached Afghanistan in March, the government struggled to shut down cities and persuade Afghans to wear masks, wash their hands and practise social distancing. The measures were haphazardly enforced for several weeks before citizens began to chafe under the restrictions.

Today, even as public health officials confirm a second deadly virus wave, Covid-19 is an afterthought. Afghans have embraced a culture of denial, where personal priorities triumph over public health experts whose pleas are drowned out by public apathy, scepticism and an enduring belief that Allah determines a believer’s fate.

“The mentality that Trump and his supporters have, it’s exactly the same for the Afghan people,” said Dr Tariq Ahmad Akbari, until recently the head physician at Kabul’s only infectious disease hospital. “They think Covid is Western propaganda.”

But, unlike in the United States, there is no political party or anti-government movement playing down the virus by spreading misinformation. Even the Taliban have distributed personal protection equipment and run public health information programmes. They have allowed government health workers into areas they control, the health ministry said.

Shoulder-to-shoulder

In cities across the country, people go about their daily lives as if Covid-19 never existed. While the virus is most transmissible indoors, scientists say it can also be contracted through close personal encounters outside. Yet Afghans cram into buses and taxis, eat shoulder-to-shoulder indoors in restaurants, pray in mosques, embrace in traditional Afghan greetings and cluster together in sprawling bazaars.

On crowded city streets, few people wear masks. Ubiquitous public health posters warning of Covid-19 are routinely mocked as relics of a not-so-distant past when coronavirus seemed terrifying and indomitable. “We know people are tired of the virus and the health messages they keep hearing,” said Akmal Samsor, a spokesman for the health ministry. “We live in a country with serious threats of war and poverty. Covid can’t compete.”

Covid-19 patients at the Afghan-Japan Communicable Disease Hospital in Kabul, Afghanistan. Most Afghans are in denial about coronavirus, even as a second wave has brought on a surge of new cases and hospitalisations. Photograph: Jim Huylebroek/New York Times

Covid-19 patients at the Afghan-Japan Communicable Disease Hospital in Kabul, Afghanistan. Most Afghans are in denial about coronavirus, even as a second wave has brought on a surge of new cases and hospitalisations. Photograph: Jim Huylebroek/New York Times

Afghans continue to contract the virus and die, but the scale of the epidemic is nearly impossible to measure. The health ministry’s reported coronavirus death toll is 2,074, with 50,677 positive cases, but Afghanistan’s testing capacity is severely limited; it has conducted just 180,000 tests since March. Its beleaguered health system cannot always distinguish Covid-19 from other causes of death in a country where disease and violence are endemic.

Health officials concede that Afghanistan’s actual death toll is exponentially higher. An estimated 32 per cent of Afghanistan’s roughly 34 million people may already have contracted the virus, the health ministry said. One World Health Organisation model in May estimated that half the population could become infected.

“The virus is circling the country,” Samsor said, noting that the Covid-19 mortality rate rose by 47 per cent in the first week of December. “If 95 per cent of people wore masks for just two weeks we could bring the virus under control.”

Lost interest

Yet local news media have lost interest in the virus, instead focusing on peace talks, the intensifying war and targeted killings in the capital. Last spring, pharmacies were overwhelmed by requests for purported virus treatments. But some pharmacists now say customers have convinced themselves that the virus is not worth a second thought, although some continue to seek miracle cures.

“People now think Covid is not a deadly illness, so they are not worried about it at all,” said Faizullah Faizbakhsh, a Kabul pharmacist. At domestic airport terminals, passengers ignore faded circles on the floor intended to keep them six feet apart. Only some airport workers wear masks. Flight attendants are masked, but not all passengers wear the free masks provided. People nonchalantly cluster in cinemas and shopping malls.

The government has been unable to shut down cities because most Afghans must venture out daily to earn a living

Even heartbreaking stories of Afghans dying from the virus after infecting loved ones have not aroused widespread fears. Zalmay Rahman, a resident of Mazar-e-Sharif in northern Afghanistan, said his entire family had worn masks and used hand sanitiser. Yet his mother died of Covid-19, he said, and he and several other relatives also contracted the virus. “We just hope we can survive this second wave,” Rahman said.

The sense of apathy towards the virus seems to trickle from the top down. In October, the health ministry ordered government workers to wear masks, reinstating a policy that was disregarded in early summer. But at the presidential palace complex in Kabul, almost all employees recently encountered by visiting reporters were maskless. In a palace cafeteria, workers ate side by side, hugging and shaking hands.

Mandatory masks

The health ministry recently suggested mandatory masks for banks, stores and buses. It also proposed closing wedding halls, sports clubs and funeral halls, and temporarily sidelining vehicles with more than five passengers. The proposals are pending.

The government has been unable to shut down cities because most Afghans must venture out daily to earn a living. Eighty percent of the population lives near the poverty line in a country propped up by foreign aid and a subsistence economy.

In Kabul, the Afghan-Japan Communicable Disease Hospital admits 40 more Covid-19 cases a day now than two weeks ago, said Ramin Hamid, the hospital’s health information director. Since the pandemic began, the hospital has received 32,000 suspected Covid-19 patients, of whom more than 500 have died.

Yet even hospital attendants sometimes neglect to wear masks or gowns, said Dr Meranay Baratzay, the hospital’s infection prevention doctor. As he spoke, a man emerged, unmasked, after visiting the room of a family member with Covid-19. “They don’t understand that Covid is real,” Dr Niaz Ahmad, an emergency room physician, said of attendants and visitors. “It’s only the people who have lost someone to the virus who believe it.”

– New York Times

Supply is being organised at EU level on a per capita basis. So we get the same access as every other European country. Will be interesting to see how we do compared to the rest of Europe, a fairly simple barometer to compare on. Since this is being managed by the HSE then not very well is my expectation.

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Raiders look up for this… Carr will fuck it up tho.

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Sober up

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I’ll cut you

The virus has mutated. The vaccine won’t work against it . Fighting a war on two fronts now and we have no ammo .

Sure it doesn’t fucking matter anyway. Some Chinese cunt is after rambling home after a heap of pints, fired up the wok and fucked in 2 bat’s and a sprig of parsley.

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Lads destroying themselves here, begging the HSE to fail. The same lads wanted the Dept of Education to fail as well. All so they could be right on the INTERNET.

You’d have to wonder about these sorts of people.

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Is that true? :laughing: Jesus Christ we are a ridiculous people

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On the schedule that was on the Independent, none of the dates quoted were a Saturday or Sunday.

I see the local Nursing Homes have dates got for Jan 2021.

This will be rolled out seamlessly.

@Tank should retweet that comment.

I suppose they’ll have the half day on the Friday as well. A decent portion of the population will be sickened when this is over

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It would be tricky enough to plan considering they will be working towards getting deliveries of the vaccine each week.

They have to be rolled out in such a way that Nursing Home X will have a supply for the Day 1 dose and the Day 21 dose. Then you have the other 537 facilities…

We should contact hire some lad from Britain to run this. The hse will over see a shit show.

Michael Martin should ring Boris Johnson and ask him how to do it properly like they are in the UK

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