Coronavirus Thread - Pause before - The Final Battle (Part 1)

I have never once said that this is a cod. The rest of your post is the usual guff you come out with when actual data is presented to you.

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Can everyone please stop the finger pointing about how we got here and let the CMO point his finger at the hospitality sector in peace?

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this is what no lockdown looks like to the people who have to deal with sick people

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Is the drop in life expectancy solely down to the virus? Or possibly partly attributed to the government’s reaction to the virus? Poor people seem to be more affected according to the articles you posted there and we know that lockdowns have made poor people poorer. I don’t want our health service overrun at all. We could end up in a situation where we have thousands of people lying around on trolleys if the current numbers keep climbing. Can you imagine that terrifying vista?

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Either the virus or the response to it. They aren’t mutually exclusive. They can’t be. You either accept the possibility of short term devastation or you try to mitigate against it. Either way is bad. There is no winning here

You’re the one that suggests Ireland adopt the Swedish approach when Sweden themselves are saying they’ve got it wrong. You give out stink about lockdown but like many sceptics don’t give a viable alternative that has been shown to work. You trot out the old “only the elderly die” as if there are only two outcomes to covid. The article is an attempt at informing sceptics like yourself that it’s not that simple.

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But the virus being here isn’t a choice whereas the response to it is. I always find your dismissive attitude to the carnage that the lockdowns have caused as “a bit of discomfort” as comforting and gives me knowledge that people like you are away with the fucking fairies and need to be challenged or who knows where we will end up.

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but sure you’re equally as dismissive about the carnage caused by the virus as sure it’s only a few old people dying anyway.

I’m referring to you individually when I say a bit of discomfort.

There are people that will have been adversely affected, savagely. Middle class people who can go on the internet aren’t in that category.

Do you champion for them in all walks of life or only when it suits you?

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There were estimates of one month excess mortality caused by this back in the summer and it doesn’t look to be a million miles off with 15%. You can give or take a month either side depending on what your 2019 was like, population demographics and your reaction to Covid.

It does need to be put in perspective though, for the excess deaths in the UK, we were talking about a similar number of dead in Ireland. I don’t think there’s much doubt that this caps out in terms of excess deaths at a certain rate, New York is your prime example. 20% with antibodies by June with a huge number of excess deaths to that point. Deaths will continue as this is the dominant respiratory strain and there is a new group of susceptible people, but it’s a fraction of what it was.

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That ‘article’ is beyond risible – just froth on the ‘Great Barrington Declaration’. She is another AIER shill.

I will come back to it. More important things to do than comb nonsense for the moment.

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