What a deeply unpleasant clown, wrong in nearly every way on this topic, thinks in any regard is irrelevant to me. I just find the discomfiture amusing â and could win all the arguments again any time I wanted.
Yes, there was a narrative being peddled in July and August and parrotted on here that the opening of schools would lead to a huge surge in cases. It was also contended by one poster that the Dept of Education not enforcing mandatory mask wearing for primary school kids as a highly dangerous position to take, and that cases numbering in the thousands were âlikelyâ after the opening of schools as a consequence
I believe, now we are approaching almost a month since schools opened, that it might be prudent to verify these predictions, and call the poster spreading this fear mongering to account as his prediction of a âlikelyâ 4000 cases a day havenât come to fruition.
Apologies for calling you a bastard, Iâm sure you are from fine stock.
One paragraph in my original post was in relation to ZeroCovid, of a multi paragraph post mainly focused on breakthrough infections reported in the Irish Independent article. The final paragraph was a general comment that in my opinion Sweden got things right, or at least most right, of all the responses in Europe, if you take into account the overall impact of the pandemic including the impact of all responses to the pandemic.
There is no specific causative link between that final comment and ZeroCovid. Sweden did not pursue ZeroCovid obviously, nor as you said did most European countries, except Finland and Norway arguably who instigated strict border controls. Doesnât mean there are not those who havenât been pushing strongly for ZeroCovid throughout the pandemic and still are. ZeroCovi is clearly a pipe dream, especially now that breakthrough infections are more commonplace
The general point I am making is that efforts to suppress the virus is western countries have largely been fruitless and have done much more harm than good. I would have a different opinion if vaccination efforts could result in sterilizing immunity (the ability to prevent infection), but they were never going to do that given the disease we are dealing with. We simply have to learn to live with the virus which is what most countries and US states have done.
Is it a given at this stage that lockdowns are in the rear view mirror in the US at this stage or do you see any chance they could be re-introduced at individual state level or by means of a federal directive if cases/hospitalisations went very high over the winter?
I cannot imagine stay at home orders again and if they were re-introduced there would be widespread unrest. Cases and deaths are declining again the past few weeks, so unless thereâs a massive surge again I canât imagine renewed restrictions at a state or federal level.