Coronavirus Thread (sponsored by Anthony Fauci & Pfizer) (Part 5)

[glenshane]

Did I say anything about Ireland…but I appreciate your classification re. little kids etc. An important distinction I suppose.

[Perez2017]

Watch a match lads, even go to a match, go for a walk. Surely beats arguing over covid.

[Thomas_Brady]

I told you it was staged.

[Cheasty]

@Cheasty

Ioannidis predicted 10,000 deaths tops in the US based on no restrictions. To say he’s “by no means infallible” is extremely kind. It would be akin to saying that people who believe in flat earth theory have “unconventional” or “maverick” opinions.

And as for your assertion of “more right than wrong”, I’d say that somebody who predicted 10,000 deaths in the US based on a no restriction environment has got it so spectacularly wrong that they have pretty much lost the right to be taken seriously on anything ever again.

Pretty damning article about John Ioannidis here.

Jonathan Howard

[Tassotti]

So Joe is alive and well, some apes on here will swallow any auld shite

Family of Covid-19 patient slam those who removed him from Letterkenny hospital

[Batigol]

Bad form from the people sharing it but lads will do anything to win points on the internet

[Tassotti]

Some sickos were delighted when they thought he was dead

[Tierneevin1979]

Article from the Independent yesterday.

Ireland has had 250 Covid deaths since April 1, just over 1 per day.

The majority were unvaccinated or partially vaccinated but 61 or 25% of the deaths were people who were fully vaccinated.

301 Covid patients were treated in ICU since April 1. The majority were unvaccinated or partially vaccinated but 51 or 17% were fully vaccinated.

Vaccination is clearly helping but claims that only the unvaccinated are getting seriously ill or dying are clearly not accurate. This also highlights how nonsensical the ZeroCovid goal actually is, as there will always be breakthrough infections so a ZeroCovid goal means you have to keep restrictions in place forever.

The longer this goes on the more obvious it is that Sweden got this right and most countries have been pissing against the wind.

[Tierneevin1979]

John Ioannidis is a world renowned epidemiologist at Stanford one of the top 3 research universities in the world.

The lad you are quoting is a neurologist nobody in the field would have heard of, a bit like Tomas Ryan. No surprise you think he’s the expert as he’s a ZeroCovid nutcase.

Ioannidis claimed based on his research early on that Covids IFR was 0.1%. He got tremendous pushback as it was commonly believed the mortality rate was 1-2 % or higher. 18
Months later he is closest to the reality, IFR is around 0.2%.

In the early months of Covid patients were routinely put on ventilators and over 80% died. Ventilation is now a last resort and a lot less common.

Everything in the US health care system is driven by $. Medicare in particular is completely corrupt. Anyone claiming otherwise is benefitting from a corrupt system.

To compare Ioannidis to QAnon is utterly moronic and like comparing Einstein to Sid Waddell.

[Tank]

@Tierneevin1979

This also highlights how nonsensical the ZeroCovid goal actually is, as there will always be breakthrough infections so a ZeroCovid goal means you have to keep restrictions in place forever.

The longer this goes on the more obvious it is that Sweden got this right and most countries have been pissing against the wind.

I’m anti lockdown but just because you don’t believe in zero covid that doesn’t logically follow that “Sweden was right”. Those are completely different things. You don’t have to reject lockdown if you reject zero covid. Lots of countries with lockdowns rejected zero covid, including Ireland.

Now we see the cause for your vaccine scepticism, you (illogically) think that it proves you right about Zero Covid.

I’m getting very bored of this now, the rest of the world has moved on but the anti-vaxx boys are obsessed. The anti-vaxx boys think that they’re interesting.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

The vaccine fascists don’t like their totalitarian traits being questioned.

[glasagusban]

You’re just upset at being so completely wrong about Ireland’s vaccination programme. It’s ok.

[Cheasty]

Is the appeal to authority fallacy really the best you can do?

You must be one of the most stupid cunts ever to lay fingers on a keyboard.

You’re not too far away from QAnon yourself.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

I was completely right. You were wrong, wrong, wrong.

It hurts people to look back at being on the wrong side, so rather than be a man, holding up your hands and apologising, this is the false narrative you engage in.

[glasagusban]

You couldn’t have been more wrong. We’ve had the most successful vaccination campaign in Europe. I’d be highly embarrassed too if I’d made as much of a fool of myself as you did about it. It’s no wonder you’re lashing out.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

I was right every step of the way on the vaccine rollout. They failed with every target and deadline they set. They are months behind rolling back restrictions on everywhere else.

Once again, you debate in very bad faith. Last time we crossed paths on this topic, you ran for the fills when I substantiated my position and you couldn’t.

[glasagusban]

We have the most successful vaccination programme in Europe.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

Not true.

It was slow and drawn out. What you mean to say is that the Irish people are sheep and do as they were told. Most first world countries had their vaccination campaign wrapped up months back.

[glasagusban]

As ever, the facts vary from your view.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

@glasagusban

As ever, the facts vary from your view.

As ever, the facts scare the absolute shit out of you and your disingenuous, narcissistic nature.

When the detail comes into that is when you are found wanting.