Coronavirus Thread (sponsored by Anthony Fauci & Pfizer) (Part 5)

[Cheasty]

@Tierneevin1979

Left wing propaganda is far more damaging to humans and humanity, unless you believe China is some kind of utopia. Sadly the west is now going the way of China, oppressive government surveillance, no opposition or even dissenting opinion allowed. It’s quite disturbing.

More nonsense about China. Nobody here supports China, you idiot.

You support no limits on free speech (apart from left wing speech, which you appear to favour censorship of pretty much the entirety of, and the banning of Islam).

You support zero media regulation.

That right there is a carte blanche for Nazi-style propaganda and every type of right wing disinformation. Your ideology is why America is in the state it’s in and why it’s democracy is under mortal threat from the party of Q. Have a think about it.

[Heyyoubehindthebushes]

You say tomato I say potato. Say what you want about me but I know culture war BS. What might be old left wing values are now right wing as I don’t conform to the new “left” wing values that we all have to follow and not question. Fall in line or your out. Sure make all the right wingers wear a marker so we know they are bad people. I know what I believe in. Mostly on the left and maybe slightly on the right on others. But I don’t follow a narrative blindly as it has to fit the left/right narrative. Remember ypu are the one banging on about right wing conspiracy when a majority of posters here see the BS we are told

[Cheasty]

@Heyyoubehindthebushes

You say tomato I say potato. Say what you want about me but I know culture war BS.

You are utterly clueless about it, and I mean that in the nicest possible way. Seriously, you’re fucking clueless about it.

Read this and learn.

It’s a perfect description of what you are.

It’s shocking to see so many leftwingers lured to the far right by conspiracy...

[Tierneevin1979]

You and your ilk would love a China style regime, you crave it.

I support the banning of actual hate speech, you know like openly campaigning for death to infidels. Other than that I do not support restricting free speech.

You support radical Islam and support totalitarianism.

[Tierneevin1979]

Case in point. Everyone to the right of you is far right, which is everyone.

[Heyyoubehindthebushes]

You can’t see the irony in everything you are posting? The far left that you are associating yourself woth are employing the same tactics of emotional manipulation and socialisation of narratives that the national socialist party did in Germany in the 1930s. They too claimed to be socialist.

Anyway this is the covid tread so I’ll get back on point. It’s a cod

[Tierneevin1979]

And they came to power after a decade long deep recession, most likely where we are headed. History may not repeat but it rhymes.

[Heyyoubehindthebushes]

And a pandemic. We are fuck

[Cheasty]

@Tierneevin1979

You and your ilk would love a China style regime, you crave it.

You just make a fool of yourself when you shriek this shit.

@Tierneevin1979

I support the banning of actual hate speech, you know like openly campaigning for death to infidels. Other than that I do not support restricting free speech.

You genuinely and seriously called for the banning of Islam.

And you never retracted it. It’s all there, in all its actual totalitarian hatefulness… November 2015.

@Tierneevin1979

You support radical Islam and support totalitarianism.

Again, the rantings of a blithering idiot. A moron.

[Cheasty]

@Heyyoubehindthebushes

You can’t see the irony in everything you are posting? The far left that you are associating yourself woth are employing the same tactics of emotional manipulation and socialisation of narratives that the national socialist party did in Germany in the 1930s. They too claimed to be socialist.

Anyway this is the covid tread so I’ll get back on point. It’s a cod

Here’s the reality. We cannot safely get back to full life as we knew it pre-pandemic without a higher rate of vaccination than we have now. Ireland has done brilliantly so far as regards vaccinations, and it is standing us in good stead currently, but we are not yet fully open, people are still rightly afraid, pubs and cafes are either still closed or poorly patronised. Such low levels of economic activity are not sustainable in the long run. But neither is life with the virus rampaging. The virus is likely to rampage through schools, and the rate we have is not enough. As long as thing is circulating widely, we’re in trouble. And even when all ages are vaccinated - if they are - it could still be tricky.

You say Covid 19 is a cod. The Economist magazine says over 15 million people are dead from this pandemic. My father included. I know it’s not a cod, through long months of grief and the brutal manner in which it was inflicted - no hospital visits for three weeks, a closed coffin, buried in a bag, four people at the funeral. That is grief which I’m very much still experiencing.

That’s the difference between me and others here. I know what I’m talking about. Youse, with all due respect, haven’t a bull’s notion.

[Cheasty]

@Tierneevin1979

Case in point. Everyone to the right of you is far right, which is everyone.

I am mainstream left. You are extreme right. On pretty much every subject one can think of. And getting more extreme by the day. You have retreated into a full blown alternate reality.

Anybody living in a reality based world can see that within the blinking of an eye.

[Tierneevin1979]

Was Trotsky mainstream left?

[Cheasty]

Hitler would be mainstream right today. And you’d likely be cheering him on. I mean your rhetoric is the exact same as his. And I say that with total seriousness. It is.

[The_Most_Infamous]

I don’t think I’ll ever agree with your view on covid @Cheasty ,

But I am sorry for your loss. I think everyone else on here is as well.

Try and take it easy.

[Tierneevin1979]

Hitler was a socialist like yourself. As was Mussolini. And Stalin obviously. And Main have I forgotten any of your heroes?

[Cheasty]

As with all raving mad extreme right lunatics, you believe ahistorical fantasies.

Did you really think it was a good idea to model your posting style on the “manifesto” (ie. appallingly written hate-filled insanity) of Anders Behring Brievik?

You did, didn’t you?

What’s the difference between what he wrote and what you do?

Seriously? What’s the difference?

[Tierneevin1979]

The difference is I am not a psychopath. I am a mainstream centrist. Like the great majority of Irish Americans.

Seriously deranged post by the way.

[Cheasty]

@Tierneevin1979

The difference is I am not a psychopath. I am a mainstream centrist. Like the great majority of Irish Americans.

Seriously deranged post by the way.

I note that you didn’t claim a difference of views to him.

The following is exactly like something you would write.

The most vital question is: how can Western Europeans combat Political Correctness and
retake their society from the cultural Marxists?

It is not sufficient just to criticise Political Correctness. It tolerates a certain amount of
criticism, even gentle mocking. It does so through no genuine tolerance for other points
of view, but in order to disarm its opponents, to let itself seem less menacing than it is.
The cultural Marxists do not yet have total power, and they are too wise to appear
totalitarian until their victory is assured.

Rather, those who would defeat cultural Marxism must defy it. They must use words it
forbids, and refuse to use the words it mandates; remember, sex is better than gender.
They must shout from the housetops the realities it seeks to suppress, such as our
opposition to Sharia on a national and local level, the Islamisation of our countries, the
facts that violent crime is disproportionately committed by Muslims…

It’s Breivik who wrote it. Obviously. Insane drivel.

But it is exactly like something you would write. And you know it. You’ve written this sort of stuff more times than I would care to imagine.

[Tierneevin1979]

It’s interesting that you are a student of Breivik.

[Cheasty]

@Tierneevin1979

It’s interesting that you are a student of Breivik.

I certainly am not. I decided to find out a bit about what he wrote there a few minutes ago because my cursory memory of hearing about it and reading references to it in books in the years since was that it was extremely similar to what you write.

Remember that you yourself have previously said a read of Mein Kampf was worthwhile. And maybe you were correct.

It is always best to know your enemy and what they think.

Here’s some more of what Breivik wrote. I found this just from a very quick skim through.

Western Europe is today dominated by an alien system of beliefs, attitudes and values
that we have come to know as “Political Correctness.” Political Correctness seeks to
impose a uniformity of thought and behaviour on all Europeans and is therefore
totalitarian in nature. Its roots lie in a version of Marxism which seeks a radical inversion
of the traditional culture in order to create a social revolution.

Again, it could easily come from straight off your keyboard.

And by jaysus you should have a good oul’ think about that.