Assistant Professor Tomas Ryan
Sweden got it right and Norway followed suit. Sweden, Sweden, Sweden.
Didnât say that. What was said that the facile analysis that the likes of you engages in forget that a key criticism of Sweden was school closures.
In the case of Norway and Denmark, they used the evidence of Sweden to go for minimal primary school closures. Denmark reopened primary schools quickly after their December surge. Thatâs part of why they had a good pandemic. In the case of the likes of Ireland, long term school closures made little difference to the pandemic. The prolonged closure in Spring to summer 2020 was nonsensical and the closure in the Winter was far too long. That was based partly on the refusal for some media to discuss things rationally. Indeed even Tony Holohan incorrectly characterised Swedenâs approach as âlet it ripââŚthat was that. Countries in Europe that come out with credit are those who learned from elsewhere and took the best lessons for other places, whilst acknowledging the fact that it was endemic in Europe.
That doesnât mean that Sweden had a good pandemic, far from it and their leaders admitted to lots of mistakes. But for all the Zoom teaching we got for 18 months, the countries listed got little out of it.
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Monaghan have had a great pandemic.
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Why are the most vaccinated groupings the most hospitalised groupings and the least vaccinated groupings the least hospitalised groupings?
Itâs almost like age and health are the driving factors and not vaccination status.
Who would have guessed that?
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If it makes for good banter then very wellâŚâŚ
Agreed mate, thanks for highlighting. Another step on the path to turning into a fascist hellhole like Australia. We canât let that happen.
Itâs only a fascist hellhole if you disobey
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Guilty feet have got no rhythm
Latest from the US. Great to see the vaccines working so well.
Vaccines
Vaccines
Vaccines!
Very Darwinian. The right are literally killing off their voter base.
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You seem to not understand the data very well.
Most vaccinated cohorts yielding the most hospitalisations.
Least vaccinated cohorts yielding the least hospitalisations.
I think the potential for your wummery is running low on this topic, youâll need a pivot of some sort
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Swedenâs approach was to let it rip. Your hero Tegnell admitted as much. Irelandâs schools were not âclosed til summer 2020â. At least get your facts straight.
Sweden left most things open during the pandemic and suffered the consequences. Comparing Sweden with other let it rip countries will always paint it in a good light. Had Sweden acted like their Nordic neighbours they would have had far fewer fatalities.
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There it is. You need to pay attention.
Youâd want to be some mug to be going around the place unvaccinated at this stage.
Irish schools remained closed until the new school year when the rest of Europe had reopened theirs by May. Norwayâs PM specifically cited the closure as a mistake, taking her lead from the Swedish results of doing so. The most important point was that she said it was the right decision at the time as a precautionary one, but they had learned their lesson from it and were happy to go another way. The myopic standard of debate that the likes of you engaged in ensured that Tony Holohan torpedoed plans to reopen schools after the initial wave and children lost out on at weeks of in person education. If Ireland had followed the Danish approach of allowing children back in mid April 2020, primary kids would have had 2.5 months of additional class time.
The Swedish approach was also never âlet it ripâ. Indeed in September 2020 Tegnell kept sports stadiums at very limited attendances due to the spread on public transport and didnât agree with the Germans in allowing in large crowds again.
The inability to move beyond a decision taken in March 2020 and to learn from what happened really hampered our response.
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Yes, seems the vaccines are doing a great job.