Coronavirus Thread (sponsored by Anthony Fauci & Pfizer) (Part 5)

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OK. So you don’t want to compare 17/18 against covid 19/20 or covid winter 20/21, you want to compare it to this winter period, 21/22 only. Grand. OK. How are you going to offset the effect of restrictions on covid this year. And the vaccine?

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I want to compare excess deaths over the past 10 years. April 2020 and Jan 2018 are two that stick out like a sore thumb, both are explained by a very bad flu season and the novelty of Covid 19.

What is different is one barely caused a raised eyebrow while the other (the less serious one) caused absolute total fear and hysteria. I note you keep on ignoring the indifference to Jan 2018 at the time.

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There’s no real restrictions up north at present, minimal ones really that won’t be enforced too hard.

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But April 2020 isn’t a real figure because almost the entire world stopped in order to alleviate against it. So the real figure would have been higher. Much higher. So how are you going to offset that for your highly scientific comparison?. I’m sure you’ll have some way because I know you’re very smart and an excellent debater. Sure you say so yourself.

In reference to covid being higher on the hysteria front, I’d say the fact that it was preceded here by 3/4 months of warnings of mass deaths through Asia and Europe before it got a grip here was the big factor. That’s why we had lockdowns here. Don’t even think anyone had died in Northern Ireland before restrictions were brought in. So that’s pretty unfair on covid. It wasn’t even given a fair go to get some scoreboard separation going.

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I’d say I’m not the only one who quickly scans the posts here to see if they’re more than three lines long and abandons them if so,
There’s lads writing 5 thousand words and more on this thread every day, it’s C madness, someone needs to stop it😐

Now there’s six lines :+1:

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Is it not? Society kept going on for a bit I think you will find.

Covid wasn’t higher on the hysteria front. There was no hysteria on the Jan 2018 front whatsoever. Jan 2018 was worse than any point of Covid and that winter flu season only got a press coverage about 10 months laters, people weren’t aware it was happening at the time. The most deaths of any month in the past 10 years, put down to seasonal flu and a poor vacicne and nobody noticed.

You continue to be unable to explain the absolute indifference or ignorance to the death figures then. I don’t know how anyone can justify the two different reactions as reasonable in hindsight.

Flu deaths don’t seem to matter but Covid deaths too - that seems like an utterly incredible outlook. Maybe there was no capital in being a white knight for the elderly and vulnerable when it was boring old flu.

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Society in Northern Ireland locked down in late March 2020 mate. Check it.

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I’d say the majority of TFK posters have completely wasted their lives.

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aye but @Juhniallio kicking the fuck out of @Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy here. It’s not really fair. A bit like Amir Khan meeting Canelo Alvarez and Canelo pulling his punches

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I see you’ve ignored the indifference to Jan 2018.

Seems your line about cherry picking earlier was probably more apt to your own approach.

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I think you’ll find Julio is running scared from the Jan 2018 figures and the indifference to it.

Any questions, just ask.

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Just pointing out to @fulvio where I previously addressed his current goalposts. Any sign of you letting me know how your highly scientific study will account for all the deaths that lockdowns and other restrictions saved? I’m ready for it. I can’t wait.

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You seemed to have shat yourself when you had a platform to debate things.

Time to change your soiled nappy.

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You still haven’t referenced why nobody batted an eyelid about a month which had record deaths.

If you can’t address it just say so but your attempts to deflect away from it were pathetic. 10 months after the fact about record deaths and it got a day’s coverage and was forgotten about again. Mad stuff really.

It seems the no of people that dies is irrelevant unless you’ve a big hype machine around it.

50k excess deaths in the UK in that winter flu season and barely a dickie bird about it.

And you still can’t explain it.

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You need somebody to do this first

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Another inability from yourself to engage in a coherent argument.

You’re just another flu denier. A lad with a red face when it’s pointed out to him that he got hysteric over the thing that wasn’t as bad as thing he was indifferent to.

I can understand why you’d be embarrassed but I think you are showing a lack of humility here.

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Look pal, you hid and denied your denial for about 18 months but now you’re fully out there as a “Covid is only a wee flu” pundit, in fact a Covid denier and an anti-vaccination nut. Not only that you have proved yourself, with your denigration of people with health problems, like obese individuals for instance, as a health fascist.

Engaging with you is like stepping into a 20 foot deep slime pit. If you get out you’re very lucky but there’s always that feeling that some of the slime remains attached to you somehow.

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You’ve just posted a hysterical flu denying piece there.

You’re a simple minded mug, you’re the guy who dismissing flu, a virus which caused record deaths in the O6 in Jan 2018 so spare us the hysterics about caring about people with health problems. You’re the zealot here but is happy enough to dismiss flu as a nothing issue while banging the Covid drum. A pity you didn’t have any care about public health back in 2017/18.

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You seem to be drifting away from the question here @fulvio. I’ve asked you a few times so I’m sure you’re formulating something fantastic. Any way, for about the eighth time, in what way will your highly scientific comparison account for lower deaths from covid due to the entire world going under the bed.
I know you were taking the piss saying society didn’t shut down as well.

And just to re-iterate I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IN RESPONSE BETWEEN 17/18 FLU AND COVID WAS CAUSED BY THE FACT THAT WE HAD 3 OR 4 MONTHS OF PICTURES OF HINDREDS OF PEOPLE DYING BEFORE COVID. AND THAT IT WAS A BRAND NEW VIRUS.

Now. Answers please. And then I have another question.