Coronavirus Thread (sponsored by Anthony Fauci & Pfizer) (Part 5)

[POTUS]

@Copper_pipe

The Food and Drug Administration on Monday granted full approval to Pfizer-BioNTech’s coronavirus vaccine for people 16 and up, making it the first to move beyond emergency use status in the United States.

Thank you President Trump and Operation Warp Speed

[Thomas_Brady]

The football semi final and final have to be behind closed doors. We can all agree on that

[Cheasty]

@Gman

The entertainment sector wants things opened up, yet are putting forward the case that the AI final was a disgrace.

Sure half this forum was doing that after the Euro 2020 final. English people having fun bad, Irish people having fun good.

[Tim_Riggins]

Not really. It’s on a lower baseline. The Israel numbers are not massively different to other countries experience.

Israeli data: How can efficacy vs. severe disease be strong when 60% of...

They are horsing them in as they are Pfizer’s guinea pig.

[Batigol]

@Thomas_Brady

The football semi final and final have to be behind closed doors. We can all agree on that

I wouldn’t even have them on telly, just in case

[Gman]

Were they? I thought most people looked at the final with envy and how they can have full stadia in the UK but we not only dont have that here, but also were the only country to forego their venue during the Euros. Similar with the EPL now back in full swing, full stadia and we’re still pissing about doing fuck all. My impression was people here are asking why cant we do that too?

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

You’re trying to talk to a member of the National Front there pal. Best just forget about it.

[Cheasty]

A couple of things about Israel.

Is it not the case that they used Pfizer exclusively, with a three week gap for all between doses? I’m pretty sure three weeks is not the recommended gap, and it does make a difference in terms of effectiveness.

Plus the breakdown of exactly who is being vaccinated in terms of age groups is less optimal compared to Ireland (or the UK for that matter), and there are more older people going around unvaccinated. This is a variation on the problem the US has at the moment.

These things make a difference.

[TheBlackSpot]

@Tim_Riggins

there will need to be a major police operation at the football final. Water cannons, rubber bullets, the works.

Maybe recall the Black and Tans?

[Bisto]

@Gman

t this is the point, is highlighting the faults of this going to help their cause or worsen it?

Maybe it’s just plain old ire … no calculated Strategy … “ you wankers you got a chance we didn’t get and you can’t even follow the rules “… it’s actually sad they can’t rely on fairness and equity …

[Cheasty]

@Gman

Were they? I thought most people looked at the final with envy and how they can have full stadia in the UK but we not only dont have that here, but also were the only country to forego their venue during the Euros. Similar with the EPL now back in full swing, full stadia and we’re still pissing about doing fuck all. My impression was people here are asking why cant we do that too?

I think they were, you know. The general gist of the talk on this forum was initially that “hey look at those crowds in those stadiums”, and then it turned to “hey, those Euro 2020 matches turned into superspreader events”.

I think the latter point of view was made to deflect, for forum purposes, from the reality that Delta was growing, superspreader events or not.

The GAA and GAA people used exactly the same logic as the entertainment industry is doing now when the GAA couldn’t have crowds but non-essential retail had opened.

I think you and a lot of other GAA orientated people just don’t like the GAA being painted in any sort of bad light or the notion that anybody else would look at the favourable treatment they have received with any sort of envy, or even the voicing of the not at all unreasonable notion that they receive more favourable treatment than other sectors.

Opening up was always going to be contradictory. It could never be otherwise. You can’t go from 0 to 100 in one go. But that means the sectors that cannot open are understandably angry. I don’t blame them for that. Seeing your neighbours being allowed to do what they want while you are not allowed to breeds anger.

I agree with the view that 40k people in Croke Park yesterday and the associated crowding around and drunkenness and all that goes with an All-Ireland final was not safe.

I also agree with the view that opening nightclubs now is not safe.

The whole thing is what it is.

And the way it’s going, I think very soon I think we may well be back to a case where the amount of spectators at sporting events is seriously curbed again, for a while at least.

This autumn and winter is going to be confusing, and will likely be infuriating for many, from different standpoints. I don’t see any way around that.

[Cheasty]

@Cheasty

Get vaccinated.

Claire Allan

Independent.ie

[TreatyStones]

Heather Humphries wants to know why NPHET keep moving the goalposts.

[glasagusban]

@Cheasty

Sure half this forum was doing that after the Euro 2020 final. English people having fun bad, Irish people having fun good.

I think you’re making up things that people said again. @Gman’s recollection is accurate.

[glasagusban]

I’ve listened to a few advocates and I don’t think they’ve directed ire at the GAA at all.

Their frustration seems squarky and fairly directed at our shit show nanny state government.

[Cheasty]

@glasagusban

I think you’re making up things that people said again.

I don’t think so.

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The surge in the UK is undoubtedly due to the football, there’s a segment of the English that behave like apes at the best of times, let alone when their team are contesting a major tournament and hosting games. There have been more cases in the UK than the US for the past several days, with 5X lower population. The rest of Europe is well lower than the UK.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

The gga at the very least should have followed the procedures. The arrogance is sickening

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

I find the idea that you can cage people up like animals for 18 months and then expect people to behave sensibly when given the opportunity to start living again fairly bizarre.

You were always going to have large numbers of people going mad once given the opportunity.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

They were shitting in peoples gardens

[Cheasty]

@glasagusban

Their frustration seems squarky and fairly directed at our shit show nanny state government.

“Tonight, Matthew, I’m going to be Brendan O’Neill.”