Thatās really not relevant.
Travellers have been discussed on here in contentious terms long before Peter Casey arrived on the scene. Thereās no āemboldeningā on here, that is pseudo social science BS.
In terms of what John Connors said that prompted the nomination (as far as the above talk goes), it was being an apologist for destruction of property. Really nothing to do with being a traveler.
No one here genuinely defends travellers??
Glas has for years, which is fine in itself, but came long before Peter Casey.
Itās making up some milestone or change on here to deflect from the fact that Connors was nominated for being an idiot on social media.
Travellers have long been generalised in almost uniformly negative terms on this forum, and vilified in outright bigoted terms.
What Casey did was to bring that sort of outright bigotry into mainstream discourse.
When itās brought into mainstream discourse, it ālegitimisesā it.
Emboldening is not pseudo-science. Itās not science at all. Itās a statement of the bleedinā obvious - unless youāre to dismiss the entire history of racist demagogues and the whipping up of racial bigotry in politics and how it translates into the emboldening of racists and bigots in everyday life.
Such as what happened in say, oh, 1930s Germany. Or Rwanda, or Syria, or Yugoslavia, Ukraine or the North of Ireland, or wherever youāre having yourself.
It would sort of be to dismiss the role of Hitler in why Krystallnacht was perpetrated.
Iād wager that the majority of people voting for Connors here donāt even know what his views on many or any subjects are, they just see him as a prominent Traveller who is unashamedly opinionated, and vote accordingly.
Bigots have never liked prominent members of minority groups who are opinionated.
For the record, I think Connors has some crazy views and some questionable ones on different subjects.
Where he is absolutely correct is in the discrimination and hatred Travellers constantly have to deal with in their everyday lives - that a significant section of the settled population outright participate or approve of such bigotry, and that a larger section of the settled population tacitly accept it.
Casey, on the other hand, is an outright embarrassment to himself and to Ireland and really should be winning this contest by a landslide - in fact if this competition encompassed the whole decade, heād be my nomination.
Itās difficult to think of a more cuntish thing to do than to deliberately whip up racial bigotry for your own self-serving political ends.
What did casey say that was racist and or bigoted, he didnāt recognize their ethnicity, his own fairly ignorant opinion, what else though?
Youāve just answered your own question.
Casey put himself forward for public office and got almost a quarter of the vote.
Connors mouths off on Twitter, calling, amongst other things, all Gardai āscum.ā
Thereās only one cunt there and it aināt successful businessman Peter Casey.
So thats it? He displayed his own ignorance? You think thats whipping up racist bigotry?
Thatās an awful long post that again misses the point.
Glas stated that Connors is here because people are emboldened on here. There is a several thousand post thread and years of discussion on here to show people have had no issue in discussion of travellers in frank terms on here.
It is twaddle.
Onto the ābigotedā thing. As far as Iām aware he was nominated for this;
Connors evidenced clear stupidity and ignorance here. Similar to the way he will describe Guards as scum whilst railing against stereotyping of travellers, he is totally irrational.
The people of the area were pissed off at what was criminal damage of a local ammenity. Families and the elderly had to to go elsewhere to get a shop. Stuff like this drives away investment from these areas, perpetuating deprivation.
For the chaps like you on the reactionary left, you do the exact same thing in your desperate attempts at defending a āminorityā. Were you not just on here criticizing those who were defending the criminal damage in Roscommon? Pot, kettle, black.
Do you believe Hitlerās public utterances played a role in the perpetration of Krystallnacht?
Were you hanging out on YouTube comment sections whilst taking your little break?
This the same John Connors who made his name portraying violent criminal travellers on screen?
Overlooked in the heats as name unrecognised. If Fagan had called him Flattyās solicitor fella heād have walked this.
Iāll try and explain this to you in simple terms, as you donāt seem to understand any others.
Iāll absolutely defend a minority, as generalised bigotry and vilification of a minority group is abhorrent, in no way legitimate, and to be fought at all costs.
Any reasonable person agrees with this.
Anti-Traveller bigotry is vile, abhorrent and racist and carries no legitimacy whatsoever.
Criticising particular people who engage in criminality such as those in Rosscommon who set fire to vehicles, assaulted people with baseball bats and killed a dog, is criticising criminality, or āvilifyingā it, if you prefer.
This is entirely legitimate.
It isnāt vilifying an ethnic group or a minority group which is a minority on the basis of its non-chosen identity.
Answer the question instead of engaging in a pathetic attempt at deflection.
Do you believe Hitlerās public utterances played a role in the perpetration of Kristallnacht?
Sigh, I see youāre still struggling even after your break.
Connors was nominated for defending looting and not apologizing for it.
Traveller chat has happened on here for years and will go on, Casey changes nothing on here.
Thereās really nothing else to say.
Why canāt you answer a simple question?
Do you believe Hitlerās public utterances played a role in the perpetration of Kristallnacht?
Travellers are bums. That is a generalisation that is mostly true.
@Tim_Riggins believes the concept of āemboldeningā doesnāt exist.
Thatās why he canāt answer a simple question about whether he believes Hitlerās public utterances played any role at all in the perpetration of Kristallnacht.
If he answers āyesā, ie. that Hitlerās public utterances did play a role in the perpetration of Kristallnacht - which to any reasonable person would be a statement of the bleedinā obvious, he blows his own argument apart.
If he answers ānoā, he sort of comes across as a raving anti-semite and Nazi sympathiser.
Tim of course has form for the ānoā argument. Itās the one heās being trying to maintain for the past two years while maintaining that Trump hasnāt emboldened racists.
A self-evidently laughable assertion.
And one which opens a whole load of questions about his sneaking regard for racism and fascism.
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