Coursing 2012/2013 - The Road to Powerstown

No confirmation yet if Phillip Fenton was involved

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/other-sports/clonmel-shock-as-six-dogs-test-positive-261726.html

Tremendous move from the ICC to release that in the middle of Cheltenham .
Wonder which dogs they were… :popcorn:

I refuse to believe that there is doping in coursing.
The B samples should be thrown in the bin for the good of the sport.

How do they test dogs for drugs? I presume they fasten a jar to a lamp post and let the dog do its thing?

Were the dogs who tested positive ever publicly named?
@Onthesod

[QUOTE=“TreatyStones, post: 968755, member: 1786”]Were the dogs who tested positive ever publicly named?
@Onthesod[/QUOTE]

TBH Treaty I don’t think so but I stand to be corrected on that. Their names may have made it into the SP but I don’t remember seeing them… Personally, I think they should have been published.

Of course they should have. Seems to have been very little about it since the initial findings of the 6 positive tests were published.

Agreed - maybe @manaboutdog could shed a little light on whether or not they made it into the SP as my readership is intermittent during the off season. I don’t really know whats preventing the ICC from doing this…

This is the most recent report I can find, it’s actually from last weeks leader, looks like if there isn’t an appeal lodged by next week then the results will be published.

The owners of six greyhounds which tested positive for banned substances at the Irish Derby coursing event earlier this year have until next week to appeal the findings for a committee set up to investigate the matter.

The winner of that event, Kyle Calvin, is owned by Patrickswell woman Marie Field and trained by her husband Michael, a former chief executive of the Irish Greyhound Board and former principal of Ardscoil Rís.

There has been widespread speculation in the coursing community that their dog was one of those that tested positive following the meet in Clonmel.

However, to date the Fields have declined to comment on this speculation. When asked this week if he had been notified of a positive test, Mr Field said: “We have nothing further to add”.

An independent hearing committee of the Irish Coursing Club (ICC) met on May 30 to adjudicate on the results of the testing. Following that meeting, they notified the owners/trainers of the six dogs which had tested positive. Under the ICC rules, those people have 14 days to appeal the decision of the committee. That 14-day period expires next week.

DJ Histon, chief executive of the ICC, said that they would not identify the six people involved until after this date. “The independent committee sat on May 30 and they have notified their findings to the six people,” he said.

“The findings [of the committee] will be published following the completion of the appeals mechanism,” he added.

Under the coursing club rules, there is a maximum fine of €2,000 for doping, but the ICC can also impose an additional discretionary fine of up to €7,500. If a greyhound is found to have been given banned substances, all prize money and trophies must be forfeited and the dogmay be banned for a maximum of 12 months. An exclusion order may also be issued against the owner/trainer.

The Irish Derby is one of the biggest events in the Irish coursing calendar with a first prize of €35,000. Marie Field’s dog beat her good friend Noreen McManus’ entry With Grim Intent in the final.

However, it later emerged that six dogs had tested positive for doping in the course of the meet. The ICC subsequently issued a statement confirming this. “Following analysis of samples taken at the National Coursing Meeting held on February 1, 2, 3 2014, the results of six samples report the presence of prohibited substances as defined by Rule 88 of the Irish Coursing Club Rules.”

The confirmation of the positive tests led to widespread speculation on ‘doggy websites’ that one of the dogs that tested positive was Kyle Calvin.

You just beat me to the punch TS, I had just seen the same and was going to post it up… Just heard that a number of sizeable fines (E000’s) have been handed down by the ICC. Methinks that a long term testing regime with realistic chances of wiping out the use of prohibited substances is a must now even to extend it to club meetings

The Leader must have an issue with the Fields. They don’t cover coursing from one end of the year to the other, but are one of the only publications to have persevered with the story and covered it before there was any official announcement from ICC on the positives.

Ah you’d miss Sid all the same :smiley:

He hasn’t gone away you know.

Those fines are pretty small considering the offence. Taking the chance is well worth it considering the lenient 12 month ban for the dog also.

@Onthesod

How did Glin go?

Which drug addled mutt won the TS?

Fantastic coursing… The club in Glin have outdone themselves in building a fantastic coursing facility. The winner of the DTS was belong to the same syndicate that won the Oaks this year with a dog called Somelittlelord (Central City ex Moat Lady). In my opinion he is better than your average TS winner but time will confirm or deny that. The BTS went to Bantry in to a bitch called Lochbo Pearl (incidentally beating a sister of the DTS winner called Somelittlelady), I would think that both the winner and the runner up are better than average with the Runner up very likely to pick up a ticket on her next outing…

As for the drug addled state, I can’t comment… I don’t know if there has been a change to the testing regime at club meetings yet

[QUOTE=“Onthesod, post: 1027826, member: 1441”]Fantastic coursing… The club in Glin have outdone themselves in building a fantastic coursing facility. The winner of the DTS was belong to the same syndicate that won the Oaks this year with a dog called Somelittlelord (Central City ex Moat Lady). In my opinion he is better than your average TS winner but time will confirm or deny that. The BTS went to Bantry in to a bitch called Lochbo Pearl (incidentally beating a sister of the DTS winner called Somelittlelady), I would think that both the winner and the runner up are better than average with the Runner up very likely to pick up a ticket on her next outing…

As for the drug addled state, I can’t comment… I don’t know if there has been a change to the testing regime at club meetings yet[/QUOTE]

I saw some of the photos online and the new setup looks very well indeed.

Time is getting short now…

I went Borrisoleigh meeting over the holidays. I doubt anything coming out of there will trouble Powerstown.
Jimmy Barry Murphys dog looked a serious tool but broke his leg in the final when 5 lengths clear.

[QUOTE=“TreatyStones, post: 1067077, member: 1786”]I went Borrisoleigh meeting over the holidays. I doubt anything coming out of there will trouble Powerstown.
Jimmy Barry Murphys dog looked a serious tool but broke his leg in the final when 5 lengths clear.[/QUOTE]
The winner of the OTS is short enough price for the Oaks… Could be money on her of course and may not fully reflect the bookies thoughts