Covid 19 🐐- It's Back Baby!

[farmerinthecity]

You are a piece of shit.

As it was in the beginning….

I’ll leave it at that.

[Watchyourtoes]

@farmerinthecity

Vulnerable were protected, particularly in the early days

Ah I see you are just winding, carry on.

[farmerinthecity]

So you are saying that the vulnerable were locked up but not protected and presumably think that the lockdowns in place were needless and this wouldn’t have favourably impacted the protection of the vulnerable?

[EstebanSexface]

Nobodies going to break new ground lads. What a redundant argument

[glenshane]

@farmerinthecity

Lock the vulnerable up in air tight rooms with no social interaction while the rest of the population jollied it up?

Anyone with an ounce of decency or human compassion wouldn’t even dream of such a situation.

In fairness you seem to be the only person who has dreamt of such a situation

[cluaindiuic]

@cluaindiuic

Was lockdown helpful in lowering cases? Probably.
100% categorical certainty? Can’t be proved without the side by side comparison I mention, which won’t ever happen.

And that becomes a problem when you layer in all the issues that prolonged lockdowns impose on a population.

The question then becomes how much of a help was it?
Well, that also can’t be quantified. Any quantification is absolute guesswork.

And go a layer of abstraction further.

Were the benefits of the lockdown > the societal cost of the lockdown?

This will be argued for the next decade.

[Tierneevin1979]

That’s not very decent or compassionate now is it.

Like most in society who bleat about Covid you have a fundamental lack of understanding of the subject. Covid is an airborne disease, if you understoood that you would understand how utterly stupid your utterances and those of the majority of other morons are.

Try and think for a change, how might you protect those who are vulnerable from an airborne disease? Think measles, how would you protect a child who is immune compromised if there is an outbreak of measles. Would you stop all children going to school?

[Malarkey]

@glenshane

I rrally think you need to step back from the simplistic notion that if you never go near anyone you won’t get the virus. I understand how beguiling it is,on a personal level. But sensible fellas like ourselves need to take a broader view- even if it wounds our pride a little?

You constantly put words in my mouth that I did not say. See, I do not have an absolutist mindset, like you. I do not believe any ‘black and white’ nonsense, which is the ultimate simplicity.

You benefited, and continue to benefit, from Covid measures. Man on a trampoline decrying bounciness.

[Malarkey]

@Tierneevin1979

In short, the measures that Sweden took.

A maximum of eight people, as of November 2020 in Sweden, were allowed attend a public event.

[Tierneevin1979]

Sports and cultural events, schools never closed nor restaurants and bars, although numbers were limited. Again, nothing wrong with sensible restrictions, especially in the early stages of a wave.

Beats a level 5 lockdown, the 5km limit, closing schools, 9 Euro meals, etc.

[Tim_Riggins]

It is very dishonest to pick up a study which relies on China scientists for this.

Clearly social distancing works and the harder you go the quicker you get it down.

That doesn’t mean it suits everyone or is the approach to take for a virus that has spread across multiple borders and is endemic.

For those saying “lockdowns” worked, where? China style? Australia?

I’d probably advocate shutting the borders hard on the place that has the next novel virus that shows the ability to spread, but I also recognise that we have delayed info and that this is a dangerous long term approach.

[Tim_Riggins]

One area that Sweden had a strange divergence from countries with even hard lockdowns was on sporting events. They were always against them.

[Tim_Riggins]

At a micro level it works. No question.

It just isn’t a way for someone to run a society long term.

Without that vaccine (whether you think it worked or not) we were absolutely fucked as Ireland talked itself into harder lockdowns with diminishing returns.

[Malarkey]

@Tierneevin1979

Sports and cultural events, schools never closed nor restaurants and bars, although numbers were limited. Again, nothing wrong with sensible restrictions, especially in the early stages of a wave.

Beats a level 5 lockdown, the 5km limit, closing schools, 9 Euro meals, etc.

You need to get your facts square. Swedish secondary schools were closed. Primary schools were never closed there. I repeat: a group of eight people was the maximum allowed in public as of November 2020. For most events, such as a gig or a play, that maximum obviously constituted a de facto shutdown.

You are not describing Sweden. You are describing ‘Sweden’, a place created by magical right wing thinking.

[Malarkey]

@Tim_Riggins

One area that Sweden had a strange divergence from countries with even hard lockdowns was on sporting events. They were always against them.

Stop addressing me. I will put the matter politely, this time.

[Cheasty]

@Tierneevin1979

Sports and cultural events

What was twice UEFA Cup winners IFK Gothenburg’s total attendance for the 2020 Swedish League season?

[carryharry]

Could it be argued variants are bollocks and it’s essentially Covid itself losing its punch over a 4-5 year period?

I can’t be arsed looking back for it but I posted way back that it was going to take 4 plus years to disappear as per past pandemic’s.

Although some sneer at the suggestion, it hasn’t yet gone away.

[Cheasty]

2020 IFK Göteborg season

[Tierneevin1979]

You’re right, Sweden had the same lockdown measures as everyone else.

[Tierneevin1979]

No, it could not be argued as it’s bollox. All organisms including humans undergo genetic variation over time. It’s the reason you have six fingers on each hand.