Are you on the waiting list for the immigration museum?
Go team Dublin
Bollix.
Ireland follow Zipf’s Law quite closely. The population growth rate of the secondary Irish cities has met or exceeded Dublin since Independence. Dublin grew naturally like most cities, the Vikings settled and go on with it.
The decline in cities in Ireland has mainly been Belfast.
Poorly informed rural babble has no place here.
The population of Dublin is broadly similar as a percentage of the island of Ireland as Paris is to France (19%). It’s smaller than the London is to Great Britain as a percentage.
Mayo for Sam
1m people visited the Book of Kells last year. 1.6m went to the Guinness Storehouse.
Keep it fact free though Choco.
Of course it won’t compare in terms of buildings, museums and architecture to cities of major colonial powers who plundered wealth of continents and returned it as a prize to their capitals. London, Madrid, Paris, Rome were all once the centre of the world or a large part of it.
Berlin is a great place to visit but not aesthetically pleasing. Ditto Munich.
In terms of a place to visit it ranks ahead of most cities and is popular for a reason.
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1.8 m in the dublin metropolitan area, more again in the pale. And you think this is 19% of ireland?
Many of those are extremely small in comparison. Wouldn’t really be like for like. Bruges would be considered a town in many countries really.
Every cunt that goes to Dublin goes to the Guinness Store house … every dog, woman, and rodent. … I couldnt think of anything more boring… Just shows how little there is really. I visited the book of Kells 4 times myself last year
Limerick is the nicest city in Ireland by a distance.
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Where else are you going to get an instagram worthy pint of Guinness with a panoramic view of Dublin.
There’s a good bit on coopering in there to be fair.
Now we’re talking
There’s a couple of them small yes … but are you talking city centre or population here? Dublin City centre is small enough really.
There’s nothing else to do really. Tim is great at running away from points he cant argue and googling the investment in cork airport.
He said dublin is fantastic, i said youd walk through whats fantastic it in a few minutes. He said tourists stream there, i pointed out they land there before streaming west. Talk to them, look at where thwy spend their time. Do visitors to london, paris, rome, spend a day or two there and head off to the countryside for a week. Nope, but that’s what happens in ireland. Pull your own pint in the storehouse, and pull out of the city as soon as you can
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I think we can all agree that Dublin airport is beside Dublin
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I don’t think that Dublin airport is beside Dublin because of the Brits and then Irish government policy as you imply. I mostly think its beside Dublin because even for us, it would be foolish to put Dublin airport elsewhere
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Your argument as to why tourists fly to Dublin instead of Shannon or Knock is completely circular. If there was demand, the airlines would fly to the west in bigger numbers in addition to flying to Dublin. It’s irrelevant to the debate about Dublin but I point it out just because it indicates the level of bias and irrationality you are working off
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I think tourist come to Ireland for a range of reasons so your West coast or Dublin question is a bit puerile.
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I think Dublin has quite a lot of pleasant features for tourists that make it attractive to visit., either as a short break or part of a tour around Ireland. These include the compact city centre with interesting cultural and historical elements in addition to the social scene as mentioned. I think it holds its own at that “smaller city” tourism destination in Europe. I think the numbers of tourists visiting and the feedback it gets would support that.
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I’d be surprised if many tourists on any sort of extended holiday came to Dublin and didn’t spend at least 1 night here which again would make horseshit of your “The Brits made Dublin Airport the only landing point and that’s why people visit Dublin and by the way I hate the Brits” argument
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Living in Dublin is very different to visiting, as it is in most cities. Again I think if you live in certain parts of the city (central, south canals, coast) it’s a very pleasant city with lots of amenities and a good quality of life. This is particularly the case if you have a good income. Parts of the city are a lot less pleasant though and I think the sprawl over the last 30-40 years is increasingly reducing the quality of life, particularly for those in West Dublin, outside commuters etc. As has been mentioned, most cities have these type of challenges though
To conclude, Dublin by any reasonable standard is an above-average mid-sized city that is a nice place to visit and to live, with some caveats and some worrying trends.
Thus concludes my @Sidney style massive post.
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Guinness is full of pesticides (cc @anon7035031) … you’re litterally increasing your chance of cancer by 5000 % with every pint you drink . I wouldnt be caught near a pint of that gunk.
I said Dublin’s architecture is average by European tourist standards, with a good core. You were talking about West Dublin and the likes, ignoring that EVERY city has less salubrious areas.
As a City, Dublin is an Alpha- city, on a tier with your Amsterdam’s, Barcelona, San Francisco, Washington, Vienna or Rome (to name a few). That’s in the 4th tier of global cities; there are two Alpha ++ cities, 8 Alpha + Cities, 23 Alpha Cities and 22 Alpha- Cities. That puts Dublin in the top 55 cities in the world, I’m happy enough with that.
Especially so given the lack of investment in the city. Once we get things like Metro North going we should be gunning for Alpha status. For an island of Ireland’s standing that is fantastic and as an island we should all be aiming for that.
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Depends where you consider the city centre to be. Loads of European cities have preserved city centre districts which are pedestrianised and full of restaurants, bars, historical buildings etc. Dublin seems to have kept the pedestrianised streets for the shopping districts.