Direct Provision

[Corksfinedtboy]

Too many

[maroonandwhite]

@Rocko

Ah you haven’t read it. But you’ll find a way to be disagreeable as ever on matters of human rights and will still deny your obvious racism. A pathetic sort of existence.

Hahaha so there are no answers, I think I’ll save myself 175 pages of waffle aimed at placating a Mickey mouse political party with little connection to the real world. Pity you don’t have the ability to critically assess whether something will work instead of just cheerleading whatevers shovelled your direction.

[maroonandwhite]

@Corksfinedtboy

I think the govt didn’t think this through as usual, as it’s already causing confusion ,no one on the housing list will be happy ( thousands)
If the fuckers restarted building social housing properly as in the 60s -70s they’d be no need for anyone jumping ahead of those on the list

It’s a puff piece it seems, designed to keep the snowflakes happy, will be shelved as soon as it encounters reality.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

the mickey mouse party just got one of their policies implemented

[maroonandwhite]

He’s here to back you now in person. You must feel ten feet tall.

What have they got implemented?

[Rocko]

@maroonandwhite

@Rocko

Ah you haven’t read it. But you’ll find a way to be disagreeable as ever on matters of human rights and will still deny your obvious racism. A pathetic sort of existence.

Hahaha so there are no answers, I think I’ll save myself 175 pages of waffle aimed at placating a Mickey mouse political party with little connection to the real world. Pity you don’t have the ability to critically assess whether something will work instead of just cheerleading whatevers shovelled your direction.

It’s ok to admit you didn’t read it and wouldn’t understand it anyway. I’ve explained the funding but in your exuberance at spouting your reactionary right wing views you forgot to read my other post. An absolute simpleton.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

@maroonandwhite

He’s here to back you now in person. You must feel ten feet tall.

What have they got implemented?

INTERNATIONAL PROTECTION APPLICANTS will spend no more than four months in six State-owned, not-for-profit centres before moving into their own accommodation under a new model aimed at ending the institutionalised Direct Provision system by 2024.

[maroonandwhite]

No you gave a nonsense political speak answer when I asked the two most pertinent questions. You just don’t have the backbone to assess something properly, just happy for the few likes. Take the little pat on the head and don’t get all upset when nothing happens.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

im giving that a like

[Tank]

I have no idea what’s going on but I gave it a like too

[maroonandwhite]

Ah so if this comes to pass, and that’s a big if, it’ll still be direct provision but now state owned. So just renamed to keep the harmless sorts happy. And let’s ignore that processing times and associated issues

[Rocko]

@Julio_Geordio

@Rocko

@Juhniallio

What’s the score here @Rocko @The_Selfish_Giant? 175m seems like fuckall to set up 6 centres and all the infrastructure that goes with it in terms of supports etc. That’s before even going near the actual building of gaffs. Are the Greens being given enough rope to hang themselves on an aspirational white paper or have they thought this through properly?

There’s €600m allocated over the two phases. Direct provision costs a fortune currently. There is both incremental spend and replacement spend. By not funding the private enterprises there is more capacity to deliver.

How many long term contracts are we locked into with private providers?

There are some contracts but they’ll be used in the short term as the accommodation is developed. There’s no prospect of paying any private provider beyond the time frame they are actually supplying accommodation. There were some concerns about potential litigation around competitiveness etc but those have been dealt with in advance.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

ok bro

[maroonandwhite]

So no comeback. Got it. He’s still on the thread you can still pretend to be brave

[Rocko]

@maroonandwhite

Ah so if this comes to pass, and that’s a big if, it’ll still be direct provision but now state owned. So just renamed to keep the harmless sorts happy. And let’s ignore that processing times and associated issues

Direct provision is just a name. The (general) objections to the system aren’t related to the concept of the state providing for people, directly or indirectly. Again, it’s abundantly clear you haven’t a clue what you’re talking about here.

[maroonandwhite]

And one of those main objectiions is processing times and how long people are left without a final decision. I asked how that’s going to be addressed, instead of answer, you started shrieking.

Along with the provision of housing, own homes or rooms, the other real world issue. You don’t have an answer to either. It’s ok, you’re not a serious party. Community cars in rural areas and wolves. Gotcha.

[Tank]

I’ve been thinking a bit about this “own home” thing. There’s no fucking way it’s going to happen. The state can’t even build its own direct provision centres or enough houses for the housing lost and now we’re told that it’s going to build a constant supply of thousands of homes for people coming out of direct provision? Nothing is going to change. These people will all stay exactly where they are at the moment except now they will be able to get jobs and “integrate”. The government should be aware if the slightly questionable optics of this thing and be honest about what’s going to happen.

[Corksfinedtboy]

Think you’re right,if anything it’ll be put on the long finger ( next govt)

[artfoley]

@Tank

I’ve been thinking a bit about this “own home” thing. There’s no fucking way it’s going to happen. The state can’t even build its own direct provision centres or enough houses for the housing lost and now we’re told that it’s going to build a constant supply of thousands of homes for people coming out of direct provision? Nothing is going to change. These people will all stay exactly where they are at the moment except now they will be able to get jobs and “integrate”. The government should be aware if the slightly questionable optics of this thing and be honest about what’s going to happen.

It’ll be easily managed. They’ll just have @Batigol and his colleagues denying landing like there’s no tomorrow

[Corksfinedtboy]

Trump’s wall a do?
Paddy style