Dublin Bay North Constituency Thread

[QUOTE=“Manuel Zelaya, post: 1149334, member: 377”]Naoise O’Muiri doesn’t seem to be a particularly good vote getter. When he was first elected in the locals back in 2004, he got in by the skin of his teeth, by something like two votes. He’s another one of those who seems to be endlessly plugged by party hq but doesn’t seem to catch on with the electorate. He’s been endlessly plugged - was Lord Mayor of Dublin in 2012/13. He was on the subs bench to be MEP when Gay Mitchell ran for the presidency.

I think he made a fundamental mistake Day 1, pitching his tent in Dublin North Central. There was only ever one Fine Gael seat there and he was never going to shift Richard Bruton. Round about the same time Terence Flanagan put down roots in North East, Paschal Donohoe in Dublin Central. Maybe he might have been better, taking on Dr Bill out in Dublin North West - but then that’s about the most inhospitable FG terrain, there is in the country and they hadn’t elected a Fine Gael TD out there since Mrs Alexis Fitzgerald.[/QUOTE]
They’ll have their best chance in years to win a seat in DNW with Noel Rock

Kieran Hartley and Eddie Mulligan will vie for this. Unusually for Waterford, both are strong candidates.

I would imagine Hartley would win that handy enough?

[QUOTE=“Ebeneezer Goode, post: 1148736, member: 1785”]I’m not saying Woods will get in for fuck sake. I’m just saying there is a Woods base there at local level and she will get the nod at the convention. Do you know what FF Cumanns are like???

Power has no one. She is hated by FF in that constituency so Woods will be there along with Sean Haughey.

There was two/three FF seats across that area for years prior to the redrawing of the constituency.

Woods/Haughey/Callely/ and not forgetting GV in Porto.
Plenty of FF supporters to get one candidate home.[/QUOTE]

I’m just going on what I saw at the local elections counts in Citywest. Granted, she was in a different constituency, Fingal, than she would be for the GE( and that one is run by DB’s gangsta FF mates) but it was very much in evidence that she had no machine behind her. @Fagan or Rocko can check the figures I sent but she polled very poorly in her own ‘stronghold’ of Verbena/Bayside. Heney is well liked in that Cumann and has served her time and Haughey is untouchable in terms of a nomination. He doesn’t have enough votes to be elected though and all FF candidates will fail through poor transfers i reckon. Power has made a big play but ultimately is behind the other big independents in Broughan and McGrath. Like I said, 1 FG (Bruton)1 SF(not sure yet who is running) 1 Labour(O Riordán) Broughan, McGrath. The last three in a late night dogfight with power/haughey/ O Muirí. Flanagan will have left the building long before. Also, I think Rocko overrates Cian O Callaghan’s wider appeal completely.

I don’t necessarily think that O’Callaghan is a genuine contender - he may be loosely allied to McGrath anyway and may not run against him. But he got 2,746 first preference votes in the locals which is a huge figure and 2,135 of those were in Dublin Bay North. He’s really strong in Sutton/Howth/Baldoyle. Woods got 507 votes in that catchment area - supposedly her heartland as you say. She got 50 votes in all of Howth.

Here’s how they compared in the locals. O’Callaghan’s figures are first, then Woods’ and then the total for that box. From Baldoyle down is Dublin Bay North. Everything else is the other constituency now.

St Andrews C of I N.S., Church Road, Malahide Table 1 16 1 244 St Andrews C of I N.S., Church Road, Malahide Table 2 16 8 281 St Andrews C of I N.S., Church Road, Malahide Table 3 21 7 324 St Andrews C of I N.S., Church Road, Malahide Table 4 16 2 282 St Andrews C of I N.S., Church Road, Malahide Table 5 11 6 208 St Andrews C of I N.S., Church Road, Malahide Table 6 13 8 339 St Andrews C of I N.S., Church Road, Malahide Table 7 9 8 247 Pope John Paul N.S., Inbhir Ide Drive, Malahide Table 1 19 7 310 Pope John Paul N.S., Inbhir Ide Drive, Malahide Table 2 6 1 99 Pope John Paul N.S., Inbhir Ide Drive, Malahide Table 3 23 5 293 Pope John Paul N.S., Inbhir Ide Drive, Malahide Table 4 24 1 302 Pope John Paul N.S., Inbhir Ide Drive, Malahide Table 5 16 5 259 Pope John Paul N.S., Inbhir Ide Drive, Malahide Table 6 21 1 283 Pope John Paul N.S., Inbhir Ide Drive, Malahide Table 7 20 8 268 Pope John Paul N.S., Inbhir Ide Drive, Malahide Table 8 20 4 187 Pope John Paul N.S., Inbhir Ide Drive, Malahide Table 9 18 3 302 Pope John Paul N.S., Inbhir Ide Drive, Malahide Table 10 23 0 287 Scoil Duinninigh, Feltrim Road, Kinsealy, Swords Table 1 18 3 232 Scoil Duinninigh, Feltrim Road, Kinsealy, Swords Table 2 24 1 234 Scoil Duinninigh, Feltrim Road, Kinsealy, Swords Table 3 45 2 175 Scoil Duinninigh, Feltrim Road, Kinsealy, Swords Table 4 21 6 212 Scoil Duinninigh, Feltrim Road, Kinsealy, Swords Table 5 19 3 204 Scoil Duinninigh, Feltrim Road, Kinsealy, Swords Table 6 13 2 186 St Nicholas of Myra Hall, Kinsaley Table 1 24 7 192 St Nicholas of Myra Hall, Kinsaley Table 2 8 1 127 St Nicholas of Myra Hall, Kinsaley Table 3 12 8 228 St Nicholas of Myra Hall, Kinsaley Table 4 10 3 189 St Helen's N.S., Limetree Avenue, Portmarnock Table 1 4 4 173 St Helen's N.S., Limetree Avenue, Portmarnock Table 2 18 15 294 St Helen's N.S., Limetree Avenue, Portmarnock Table 3 10 6 309 St Helen's N.S., Limetree Avenue, Portmarnock Table 4 22 12 300 St Helen's N.S., Limetree Avenue, Portmarnock Table 5 10 22 303 St Helen's N.S., Limetree Avenue, Portmarnock Table 6 12 7 275 St Marnocks N.S., Strand Road, Portmarnock Table 1 10 2 259 St Marnocks N.S., Strand Road, Portmarnock Table 2 9 7 173 St Marnocks N.S., Strand Road, Portmarnock Table 3 11 1 243 St Marnocks N.S., Strand Road, Portmarnock Table 4 10 4 222 St Marnocks N.S., Strand Road, Portmarnock Table 5 9 8 206 Baldoyle Boys N.S., Brookstone Road, Dublin 13. Table 1 102 21 274 Baldoyle Boys N.S., Brookstone Road, Dublin 13. Table 2 99 24 349 Baldoyle Boys N.S., Brookstone Road, Dublin 13. Table 3 110 27 328 Baldoyle Boys N.S., Brookstone Road, Dublin 13. Table 4 76 26 320 Baldoyle Boys N.S., Brookstone Road, Dublin 13. Table 5 93 22 358 Baldoyle Boys N.S., Brookstone Road, Dublin 13. Table 6 82 20 344 Baldoyle Boys N.S., Brookstone Road, Dublin 13. Table 7 84 31 319 Bayside N.S., Verbena Ave, Sutton, Dublin13. Table 1 53 19 293 Bayside N.S., Verbena Ave, Sutton, Dublin13. Table 2 59 26 334 Bayside N.S., Verbena Ave, Sutton, Dublin13. Table 3 56 21 319 Bayside N.S., Verbena Ave, Sutton, Dublin13. Table 4 66 32 312 Bayside N.S., Verbena Ave, Sutton, Dublin13. Table 5 84 22 364 Bayside N.S., Verbena Ave, Sutton, Dublin13. Table 6 73 52 388 Burrow N.S., Sutton, Dublin 13. Table 1 97 16 295 Burrow N.S., Sutton, Dublin 13. Table 2 55 18 249 Burrow N.S., Sutton, Dublin 13. Table 3 103 28 343 Burrow N.S., Sutton, Dublin 13. Table 4 88 4 223 Burrow N.S., Sutton, Dublin 13. Table 5 99 26 336 Burrow N.S., Sutton, Dublin 13. Table 6 89 21 305 Scoil Mhuire N.S., Tuckets Lane, Howth, Dublin 13. Table 1 128 9 306 Scoil Mhuire N.S., Tuckets Lane, Howth, Dublin 13. Table 2 115 8 314 Scoil Mhuire N.S., Tuckets Lane, Howth, Dublin 13. Table 3 106 4 290 Scoil Mhuire N.S., Tuckets Lane, Howth, Dublin 13. Table 4 141 7 338 Scoil Mhuire N.S., Tuckets Lane, Howth, Dublin 13. Table 5 77 23 309

Do you think there’s an SF seat here? Can’t see it myself.

Why would there not be a Sinn Fein seat in a five seater that includes Coolock, Darndale, Donaghmede, Kilbarrack, Edenmore, Raheny, Harmonstown, Donnycarney, Beaumount and Artane?

In 2011 there were only 7,500 SF votes in the combined constituency. Can’t see them getting near a quota and they don’t get transfers. Tommy Broughan hovers up the working class vote here.

Sinn Fein haven’t put boots on the ground on the Bay Area since the Howth gun running.

Are the Whitehall cider mob still in existence ???

[QUOTE=“Fagan ODowd, post: 1149611, member: 706”]In 2011 there were only 7,500 SF votes in the combined constituency. Can’t see them getting near a quota and they don’t get transfers. Tommy Broughan hovers up the working class vote here.

Sinn Fein haven’t put boots on the ground on the Bay Area since the Howth gun running.[/QUOTE]
If Larry O’Toole couldn’t manage it, it’s hard to see how someone else will. And I’m fairly certain their current thinking is to run 2 candidates which is very strange. They selected Micheál MacDonncha and Denise Mitchell to run. Both councillors in Donaghmede-Beaumont alongside Larry. Not sure what the logic in selecting two candidates from the same area to run is.

Forgot to make my point on O’Callaghan, or to make it properly.

I think he’s a danger to Power’s chances - I don’t think that translates to him having a chance to get elected. He’s very strong in Power’s home base. If McGrath was worried about Power and could convince O’Callaghan to run as a #2 to him then O’Callaghan would destroy Power’s chances I think. So he may not be a realistic candidate to get elected but he’d put a big hole in Power’s numbers if he ran.

dungeon this shit

[QUOTE=“Fagan ODowd, post: 1149611, member: 706”]In 2011 there were only 7,500 SF votes in the combined constituency. Can’t see them getting near a quota and they don’t get transfers. Tommy Broughan hovers up the working class vote here.

Sinn Fein haven’t put boots on the ground on the Bay Area since the Howth gun running.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn’t rely on a traditional view of how transfers have worked in the upcoming election.
It’ll be establishment versus the rest.
SF got strong transfers from Independents, AAA, PBP & even the Green Party in Carlow/KK. They even got reasonable transfers from Renua considering how polar opposite their views would be. Basically a strong anyone but FF/FG/Labour vote.
Could be a bitter enough election I’d say.

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It got very uninteresting very quickly

[QUOTE=“Mac, post: 1149725, member: 109”]+1

It got very uninteresting very quickly[/QUOTE]

Bullshit. The election next year will be fascinating and this is one of the most unpredictable constituencies. Very interesting stuff indeed.

[QUOTE=“Mac, post: 1149725, member: 109”]+1

It got very uninteresting very quickly[/QUOTE]

Spoken like a fella who married into money and doesn’t understand a jot about real life.

Is real life using political contacts to bypass the planning regulations for house renovations?

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Nice mac.

You’ve learnt well from yatesy.

Cllr Mary Butler got the nomination.