The crowds of fully vaccinated people outside in the fresh air in 4 months time?
You got it in one - theyāll all be vaccinated so they will?
By the October bank holiday? Anyone who will take one will be vaccinated by then yeah. You donāt think the vaccines work?
Where do you stand on gambling on marathons?
Iām just buzzing with you bud. Its a nonsense decision but sure weāll be in the middle of the 5th wave at that time anyway apparently 
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Anyone running a marathon is already gambling more than they have.
PB is 2ā57 so would like to get under that but might have left it a little late. Iāll see how training goes. How about yourself?
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Fucking hell. That is so fast. I couldnāt manage 5km at that pace.
Iāve signed up for a 45km trail race in September. The average finishing time in 2019 was 6 hours 15. Iāll need every minute of it 
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Arra youāll be grand. Sure the hills in Wicklow are only little dimples compared to what youāve been running in the Cooleys
The Cooleys are small in height mate
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Wonāt be keeping that kind of company anyway horse, 1st attempt so it could go anyway but Iām going to go with a 3.30 pacer and see how I get on.
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Thatās quick.
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How did the 20 miler go?
Went out Sunday afternoon in a bit of mist which got progressively worse and I called it a day after 18.77m (30.20k) as it was mildering rain by that stage and I was soaked to the skin.
Did it in 2.18.18 which is 7min 22secs per mile and within my target time.
I have my own formula for minutes per mile, I can do a 5 mile run at 6min 30secs per mile on average, and Iām aiming to do the marathon in 3.5 hrs which is basically 8 minutes per mile.
Thatās 90 seconds per mile in the difference, divided by 21.2 miles to give an extra 4.25 seconds per mile over 5 miles. So on a 15 mile run for example I would be aiming for 7min 12.5 secs per mile.
All sounds very complicated when I write it down, but thatās what Iām working to for now anyway.
How about you, did you manage to get out the weekend?
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Honestly, 3hrs 30 mins is a joke off your current fitness. You could go sub 3 imho.
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Getting your time down over long distances must be the hardest thing to do ? Iād imagine the body finds a rhythm which is hard to adjust ?
I did 16 miles at 7ā 30 per mile which is about 30 second per mile faster than Iād generally do my long runs. Was with 2 other guys and they donāt know how to run slow. As @fenwaypark suggested youāre seriously underselling yourself by aiming for 3ā30. If youāre able to do that 12 weeks out no reason why you shouldnāt be at least able to hold that pace for the marathon yourself. Most plans would suggest doing your long runs a good bit slower than marathn pace. What mileage are you doing per week and what sort of speed sessions are you doing?
I did just over 40 miles last week which included a 5k track race and 40 min tempo at about 6ā30 per mile Saturday. My legs are fairly tired still. Planning another tempo later but will see how the legs are feeling.
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I donāt know about sub 3hrs horse, maybe I am being a bit conservative with 3.30 though.
Its my 1st marathon so Iām not really sure what to expect, the tank was fairly empty by the end of Sundayās run. I have another 10 weeks or so of training so Iāll re-assess closer to the time and see about going for a quicker target.
Are you doing much at the minute?
I donāt think Iāve ever ran a long run in training at the pace you did yours at and Iāve been under 3 hours 3 times so youāre not far off. Consistent training and staying injury free is the main thing.
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Iād say you are 3:10 shape at the moment at the very least
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