Equality

[TheUlteriorMotive]

[QUOTE=“Sidney, post: 1132560, member: 183”]Pity for you that the author is widely accepted to be a complete loonball, and his studies have been disowned by even the journal that published it.

Susan White would be a better source.[/QUOTE]
Critics don’t apply same standards to research advocating no affect on kids - methods, sample sizes.

ad hominem attack on the man and not the research.

Any attack on research in this area can be applied to all such research. So people saying research shows no affect are lying. Nobody can say definitively as not enough data. but there is research saying it has an impact and equally LGBT funded research saying no impact

[I]The American College of Pediatricians et al., in their April 3, 2015, amicus brief in Obergefell v. Hodges, cite just-released work in which “Sullins found that, while outcomes for children with opposite-sex parents improved if their parents were married, outcomes for children with same-sex parents were notably worse if their parents were married rather than unmarried.”[10][/URL] In this latest study,[URL=‘http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2015/04/the-research-on-same-sex-parenting-no-differences-no-more#_ftn11’][11] using data from the congressionally mandated National Longitudinal Survey of Adolescent to Adult Health (the primary data source for the three best studies used to support the “no differences” theory), Dr. Sullins finds that children of reported married same-sex parents are more likely than those of unmarried same-sex parents, unmarried opposite-sex parents, or married opposite-sex parents to experience depressive symptoms, unhappiness, daily fear or crying, and anxiety.

Furthermore, about a third of children raised by same-sex married parents report having been sexually abused by a parent or caregiver prior to 6th grade, a rate more than five times as high as children with any other category of parents, and among those who had ever had sex, about two-thirds of those raised by same-sex married parents report having been forced to do so against their will, a rate three to seven times as high as among those raised by any other category of parents. The magnitude of these differences is so great that, despite a small sample size, they are statistically significant, and further research is needed to determine their cause[/I].

[Tabby]

@Bandage

I’d like to know where Bressie stands with regard to the referendum.

He’s firmly against it surprisingly enough
‘@nbrez: fucking poo pushers. It’s not right it’s not natural. It’s a no from me.’

[TheUlteriorMotive]

Or in short when somebody cite research saying kids raised in SSM show no ill effects that research is statistically questionable and equally research saying kids raised in SSM show Adverse effects that is also statistically questionable because sample sizes make it impossible to control for various other factors - education, income, stability, length of relationship etc

The real answer is we don’t have enough evidence to decide but are pressing ahead anyway as it is a civil rights issue for homosexuals.

As a principle and public policy that is a decision that can be taken and supported but it is not true to say it is backed by unchallenged research

Maybe once you normalise SSM none of this matters anyway

[Sidney]

[QUOTE=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 1132579, member: 2272”]Critics don’t apply same standards to research advocating no affect on kids - methods, sample sizes.

ad hominem attack on the man and not the research.

[/QUOTE]
Tell that to the publishers themselves, whose own internal audit of the study found it to be “bullshit”.

Their words, not mine.

[glasagusban]

@TheUlteriorMotive making a show of himself here

[glasagusban]

@Nembo Kid

I have always been physically attracted to women. I’m just not a sex person.

If this is true you realise you’re not normal? It’s a bit creepy in fact. You are in a far far smaller minority than homosexuals. I’d prefer to be gay than be like you. You are missing a massive part of what it means to be human.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

@glasagusban

If this is true you realise you’re not normal? It’s a bit creepy in fact. You are in a far far smaller minority than homosexuals. I’d prefer to be gay than be like you. You are missing a massive part of what it means to be human.

i think being a romanista more than makes up for it

[Richie_Mac_an_Breath]

@glasagusban

If this is true you realise you’re not normal? It’s a bit creepy in fact. You are in a far far smaller minority than homosexuals. I’d prefer to be gay than be like you. You are missing a massive part of what it means to be human.

If you’re not siring childer , you’re missing a massive part of what means to be a man

[Joe_Player]

@glasagusban

The word isn’t being redefined. Marriage in law will mean the same as it always did. It’s just that more people will have access to it.

you never andsered my question

[Nembo_Kid]

@glasagusban

If this is true you realise you’re not normal? It’s a bit creepy in fact. You are in a far far smaller minority than homosexuals. I’d prefer to be gay than be like you. You are missing a massive part of what it means to be human.

You’d prefer to be gay? Eh, earth to @glasagusban, you are gay.

As for being creepy, get the fuck out of here. You were on here posting about getting a horn from watching someone eating an ice cream a few days ago and now you’re having a go at me because I don’t share your sick fantasies? Unbelievable. The fact that I am not obsessed with sex or have my thought process interfered with to get a few cheap thrills is something I am grateful for. I believe it allows me to enjoy my life more.

[myboyblue]

[QUOTE=“Nembo Kid, post: 1132614, member: 2514”]You’d prefer to be gay? Eh, earth to @glasagusban, you are gay.

As for being creepy, get the fuck out of here. You were on here posting about getting a horn from watching someone eating an ice cream a few days ago and now you’re having a go at me because I don’t share your sick fantasies? Unbelievable. The fact that I am not obsessed with sex or have my thought process interfered with to get a few cheap thrills is something I am grateful for. I believe it allows me to enjoy my life more.[/QUOTE]
Jesus that’s a clamping. Poor ol @glasagusban, it’s times like this you’d wish he had a boyfriend to give him a cuddle.

[Richie_Mac_an_Breath]

Earth to green and white, you’re gay wha

[Joe_Player]

@The Selfish Giant

i think being a romanista more than makes up for it

@glasagusban

The word isn’t being redefined. Marriage in law will mean the same as it always did. It’s just that more people will have access to it.

Marriage in law will mean the same is it what way

[Sandymount_Red]

[QUOTE=“Nembo Kid, post: 1132614, member: 2514”]You’d prefer to be gay? Eh, earth to @glasagusban, you are gay.

As for being creepy, get the fuck out of here. You were on here posting about getting a horn from watching someone eating an ice cream a few days ago and now you’re having a go at me because I don’t share your sick fantasies? Unbelievable. The fact that I am not obsessed with sex or have my thought process interfered with to get a few cheap thrills is something I am grateful for. I believe it allows me to enjoy my life more.[/QUOTE]
I’m surprised you never entered the priesthood.

[Joe_Player]

[QUOTE=“myboyblue, post: 1132615, member: 180”]Jesus that’s a clamping. Poor ol @glasagusban, it’s times like this you’d wish he had a boyfriend to give him a cuddle.[/QU
@glasagusban comes out[/QUOTE]

[Joe_Player]

@glasagusban

If this is true you realise you’re not normal? It’s a bit creepy in fact. You are in a far far smaller minority than homosexuals. I’d prefer to be gay than be like you. You are missing a massive part of what it means to be human.

o_O

[glasagusban]

@Joe Player

Marriage in law will mean the same is it what way

It’s the same Joe. Marriage doesn’t change. The referendum commission have said so.

[Joe_Player]

@glasagusban

If this is true you realise you’re not normal? It’s a bit creepy in fact. You are in a far far smaller minority than homosexuals. I’d prefer to be gay than be like you. You are missing a massive part of what it means to be human.

@balbec

As always the voice of reason.

only the gays not have not access to the same constitutional rights and privileges REALY???

[TheUlteriorMotive]

[QUOTE=“Sidney, post: 1132595, member: 183”]Tell that to the publishers themselves, whose own internal audit of the study found it to be “bullshit”.

Their words, not mine.[/QUOTE]

people are harping on about studies showing no ill effects which is not true as nobody actually knows the answer because of problems with sample sizes and controls for other contributing factors

Show me an uncontested study which says kids do just as well raised by a same sex married couple as a traditional married couple

The correct answer is we don’t know what effect this will have on children and society

[Sidney]

@HBV gets his views from the animal world, @TheUlteriorMotive[/USER] is an evangelical bible thumper, [USER=2514]@Nembo Kid[/USER] is a eunuch and [USER=2646]@Richie Mac an Breathnach sounds like a predatory sex pest. This is not good for the No camp.