Fitness XL- Your training routine

Ryan Giggs fitness. Real easy good instructional video.

They can sometimes turn out to be brilliant.

You seem to judge everything off academic achieve my Fagan. Are you a teacher or a professor or something? You are very narrow in your view on things like this.

Are elevated front leg and back leg split squats good for improving sprinting speed?

Been giving this 30 day plank challenge a go to strengthen my core. It wasnt too bad to start with but now I am on day 11 and it is a fucking killer, dont know how I am going to hold it for a 1.5 minutes.

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[quote=“tazdedub, post: 857353, member: 312”]Been giving this 30 day plank challenge a go to strengthen my core. It wasnt too bad to start with but now I am on day 11 and it is a fucking killer, dont know how I am going to hold it for a 1.5 minutes.

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Will power and ignorance sport.

Anyone any info on how to build an aerobic base in the off season and is it worth doing when your predominantly playing sports which generally use an anaerobic base

@caoimhaoin …a lad was telling me that the training methods the Dublin hurlers used the year they won the league and gave Tipperary a right scare in all Ireland semi final was the reason they had such a sharp decline the next year when they got relegated from div. 1 and got hammered by Kilkenny in championship…he said the training was too intense to maintain and players suffer the year after…he said that trainer went to Dublin footballers this year and they blitzed through the league and championship …although I thought they peaked around july and they were getting more tired looking with every performance thereafter…

trying to build up a weake left leg, mainly quad.

the approach I have taken is as follows:

walk up the 6 flightss of stairs to work 2 a day 2 steps at a a time always leading with left leg, do the same coming back down.

sit on a chair and tie a dyna band to one of the back legs, do 3 x10 leg curls so to speak.

bulgarians 2 x 10, both legs.

burpees 4 x 15

any suggestions?

One, he is probably instructed to get the absolute out of them that year. So the S&C coach is arguably doing his job (if he argued about LTPD then he probably wouldn’t have it).

Two he was successful, the hurlers win silverware for the first time in donkeys and footballers are All Ireland champs. Hard to argue with that.

Three, most coaches are very ignorant of sports science and do their own thing a lot and ignore evidence based advice.

As for the actual training, well without knowing what they actually did I’d be guessing in simple terms there was a cumulation of neural fatigue from have too manny demanding sessions to close to each other not allowing for enough recovery. Say doing a real hard field session on a Tuesday night, after some fatigue anyway from Monday weights, and then going again on Wednesday. Lifting anything over 85% of 1RM in big lifts like squats is going to fatigue your nervous system somewhat. Sprinting around a field being competitive at training will have similar effects to do 5 sets of 90% squats. So doing such things 3 days in a row is not ideal. That’s the only thing one could guess.

But even a casual observer would notice the drop in performance. This may have a lot to do with youth as well. Much if this is natural. One thing that we did here last season (which pleasantly surprised me) was give first year players (usually 18-22) only a 85% workload pre-season. Many are not ready for full belt and break down/slow down as a result. In GAA I blame this, or lack of, for a lot of cruciates and major injuries.

Interview with the Cork trainer last year where he commented on increase in workload and number of training sessions when a player joins a county panel and that can overwhelm some of them whereas in other sports it has been more structured and you would add a training session a week per year from 16,17,18 and not double number of sessions suddenly at 20 or whenever a lad gets the call on to the panel. He also commented that a big difference for GAA is that the ability to rest after training is not the same as for professional athletes.

Some of the fall off has to be mental though as well in terms of maintaining a peak or level of intensity in training. Will be a huge challenge for Mayo for example to come back as strong and intense in training after what happened in last two years.

[quote=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 859904, member: 2272”]Interview with the Cork trainer last year where he commented on increase in workload and number of training sessions when a player joins a county panel and that can overwhelm some of them whereas in other sports it has been more structured and you would add a training session a week per year from 16,17,18 and not double number of sessions suddenly at 20 or whenever a lad gets the call on to the panel. He also commented that a big difference for GAA is that the ability to rest after training is not the same as for professional athletes.

Some of the fall off has to be mental though as well in terms of maintaining a peak or level of intensity in training. Will be a huge challenge for Mayo for example to come back as strong and intense in training after what happened in last two years.[/quote]

I’d suggest it’s harder for Dublin. With such a young squad keeping them motivated will be very difficult.

I had to revisit my guy yesterday for more needling… it’s the lower hamstring that is causing all the problems… It was so tight that it was backing up everything and it felt like it was the glute /SI joint but after relieving that last week I was getting shooting/pinching pains in my lower left hammy when sitting over the weekend. It was particularly bad during the national gig… Got another dose of needling yesterday and it was quite painful insterting the needles and every time he twisited them in further- He said he could feel the resistance as he was doing it- I was stretching enough after the last session and when I was I was concentrating on the glute. I’ve been stretching the shite out of them since and so far so good but I can still feel a little strain on the hammy when bending or going up a step.

stretch everything not just the particular muscle you think is affected., calves up and even roll your feet over a golf ball…

Have i gotten ur back checked? Ur sycrialic joint could be out of place. Had a similar problem myself regardong the tightness etc and was getting physio for ages cos when i sprinted it felt like my hammy was tearing. Turned out the hammy was going into spasm cos of the sycrialic joint being out of place. Osteopath would be ur best bet.

Yeah- will do… Meant to say I wasn’t stretching enough after the last time- rather than I was stretching enough

I’ll see how I go over the next few days with rest and stretching…

First session in a month. Eased myself in a bit. Bench press and seated row, squat and hamstring curl, shoulder press and pull up and chin ups - all 3x8, hanging leg raises 3x10.

Entering week 3 of injury :frowning:

It has dissipated somewhat, but it’s still there!!

I think I was suffering two injuries at once, i’ve been doing Sciatic stretches and that seems to have cleared up the lower back issues, but the hamstring issue is still there. I now think it’s the hip, like I initially suspected, but the sciatic part was confusing everything. I’m sitting here now and I can feel a slightly pinching/shooting pain in the hamstring (only when I sit) I’ve been stretching them out and it has loosened some bit but I am still meeting resistance at the top of the glute when stretching, which I now think is coming from the hip.

I used a tennis ball against the wall yesterday to massage the area and the area just behind the hip, where the glute starts, was very sore.

Just when I was building up some fitness I am now back to square one… Your health turley is your wealth…

[quote=“Mark Renton, post: 861997, member: 1796”]Entering week 3 of injury :frowning:

It has dissipated somewhat, but it’s still there!!

I think I was suffering two injuries at once, i’ve been doing Sciatic stretches and that seems to have cleared up the lower back issues, but the hamstring issue is still there. I now think it’s the hip, like I initially suspected, but the sciatic part was confusing everything. I’m sitting here now and I can feel a slightly pinching/shooting pain in the hamstring (only when I sit) I’ve been stretching them out and it has loosened some bit but I am still meeting resistance at the top of the glute when stretching, which I now think is coming from the hip.

I used a tennis ball against the wall yesterday to massage the area and the area just behind the hip, where the glute starts, was very sore.

Just when I was building up some fitness I am now back to square one… Your health turley is your wealth…[/quote]

Tennis balls are shite too much give, use a hockey ball or a sliotar. Whoever advised you to use a tennis ball is a clown. I sincerly hope it was not ur physio who advised this.

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