Youâre playing dumb and being a bit obtuse. Using exaggeration to make a point is very common. I donât really think Canning âdid nothingâ all year but his influence was overwhelmingly from placed balls and others are much more deserving of a POTY nomination.
Intervening in response to a perceived slight on the playerâs character is screaming mary stuff. Presumably this was because I said itâs a bit off to go off taking selfies on your own for 15 minutes instead of celebrating with your team mates.
Youâre accusing me of being a pussy while purring away yourself.
He touched it seven times from play in the last 20 minutes, two of which led to points and two others led to poor wides for those he set up. I think the error being made here is a failure to appreciate the role Canning has been playing for Galway now compared to the role he used to play. Itâs not 2008 when he scored 2-12 against Cork.
Ok mate, as usual itâs weird to disagree with you when you make a dumb point.
You DID claim that he would get hoty for knocking over frees, I had an issue with that but youâd prefer the sheep to stay quiet as you try to wind up a few lads.
And your crusade against Joe being a nice guy says a bit about you but of course me saying that is being a Mary.
Canning played a role, a sometimes very important one, ie his last 20 minutes against Tipperary.
But thereâs no fucking way it merits Hurler Of The Year.
Before the hurling I said Galway were the more balanced team but Waterford had the better individuals. I still maintain that, certainly over the course of the year.
Itâs a similar story in the football - Dublin have a more balanced squad than Mayo but Mayo have had the better individuals this year.
If youâre to insist on picking somebody who Galway wouldnât have won without, you could easily pick Niall Burke, who did sod all for the rest of the year but produced when it mattered and got Galwayâs most important scores of the final.
A 38 year old Christy Ring got it in 1959 when Cork didnât even get out of Munster. @Fagan_ODowd has confirmed before though that most of the Waterford team of 59, certainly the Mount Sion contingent were delighted to see him get it.
But where were these âbetter individualsâ that Waterford had when it mattered most, in the deciding last twenty minutes of an AI final? Gleason was hitting stupid wides from frees and sidelines after being anonymous all day, Barron completely faded and was substituted, and Moran hit two bad wides that could have kept Waterford within a point. Burke and Coen were well on top in midfield, even though their opponents were âbetter individualsâ all year?
All scores (and wides) matter in a tight game, Niall Burkeâs are no more important than Joeâs brilliant first minute point, outrageous sideline and 90 yard free.
I understand the point regarding the award spanning the whole year, but the award generally goes to the most influential player in the business end of the championship of the winning team, as it should.
The 2017 Championship like 2016 ultimately boiled down to a 1 point semi final, Galway v Tipperary match. The winner in both 2016 & 2017 werenât remotely troubled in any other Championship match in their All Ireland winning campaign. Ultimately it was Joe who was the match winner for Galway in the crunch match of the year. After Conor Cooney registered Galwayâs 16th point on 50 minutes, Joe had to get all the scores from there, the last 6 points, including 3 monsters from play. The All Ireland and Hurler of the Year were all but wrapped up in those 24 minutes on 6 August.
Please donât bring gaelic football into a hurling discussion, if for no other reason your appalling record at prediction in that sport as well. Unless an extraordinary year from a non-winning individual, in my view the HOTY should normally come from the winning team. The AI SFs and final are the three games that truly matter in hurling, and great players find a way to win big games. Without Canning, Galway would not have been in the final, and he also performed very well in the final. The much lauded Waterford âbetter individualsâ struggled against an average Cork team until the sending off effectively decided the game, and came out second best in the final. Not HOTY performances, regardless of what they did earlier in the year.